I'm not even going to get into this arguement but I will say this. They may or they may not be sharing the ball as much as they should but there winning and that's all that matters. As long as they get the win I'm happy. If the Phenox Suns, Dallas Mavs or any other in the league started playing like the Lakers do and continued to win I know for a fact that you wouldn't complain. Neither are we.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ChuckTheD @ Mar 25 2007, 07:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Once Michael Redd puts up 50 four times in a row, you can flood general NBA with stuff about him.</div> Well, seriously, we have a Kobe vs. The World thread every 2 days.
I find it ironic that the foolio who made this thread is trying to help against kobe haters but the title of this thread says 'ammo FOR kobe haters'. And by the way, 26 APG, but uh... 24 of them are teammates passing TO Senor Selfish. The Suns aren't getting assists by passing TO Nash, vice versa.
Although you do have a valid point there Nash has no need to score himself meanwhile Kobe has basically only one other scoring option, Lamar Odom, and he's had a very up and down year. Kobe has to score to help his team while Nash helps his team by passing. It's two completely different scenario's.
Not necessarily, there have been a lot of games where Nash has HAD to step up and drill clutch jumpers. He molds to his teams needs, where as kobe's more rigid.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Mar 27 2007, 05:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Not necessarily, there have been a lot of games where Nash has HAD to step up and drill clutch jumpers. He molds to his teams needs, where as kobe's more rigid.</div>That is true, I saw it happen first hand when they played the Wizards in December. However when the healthy lakers were around in 2006/early 2007 then we were seeing Kobe pass and that led to his team being 4th in the West for quite a period of time before Odom went down, then Walton, then Brown, then Radmanovic. I'm saying that both these players "mold to their teams needs". Kobe usually needs to score, Nash usually gets the ball to guys like Marion/Amare for an easy basket however both can change.
That was two games, one against a Suns team which had a slow start at their home opener and the second against a horrendous Seattle team. Besides Odom started out the season great.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GArenas @ Mar 27 2007, 02:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That was two games, one against a Suns team which had a slow start at their home opener and the second against a horrendous Seattle team. Besides Odom started out the season great.</div>Which shows us that Odom has the potential to cover partially for kobe. So a team game should easily be able to work.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Mar 27 2007, 05:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Which shows us that Odom has the potential to cover partially for kobe. So a team game should easily be able to work.</div>...It did work before all those injuris occured and the entire triangle offense was out of check due to on-court chemistry problems. Since Odom has come back from his injury only recently has he gone back to the Lamar before the injury.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Mar 27 2007, 01:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I find it ironic that the foolio who made this thread is trying to help against kobe haters but the title of this thread says 'ammo FOR kobe haters'. And by the way, 26 APG, but uh... 24 of them are teammates passing TO Senor Selfish. The Suns aren't getting assists by passing TO Nash, vice versa.</div> Anyway what is your point, the Suns are a run and gun team are based off passing the ball. The assists go THROUGH Nash. He might not be shooting but he is racking up most of the assists. Even with the best passing point guard on your team, the Lakers still rank up there with the Suns with assists even with Kobe scoring as well as he is.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GArenas @ Mar 27 2007, 02:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>...It did work before all those injuris occured and the entire triangle offense was out of check due to on-court chemistry problems. Since Odom has come back from his injury only recently has he gone back to the Lamar before the injury.</div>Word, and like you said that was only two games. With all the injuries in to account, where would the Lakers be right now without Kobe? They would most likely be just getting off a a 20 game losing streak. Not sure if you payed attention, but Kobe is the reason both of the losing streaks were snapped. Against Boston and his amazing performance against Portland when he went for 65. Combine those two losing streaks and there you go. With Kobe scoring these high numbers and carrying his team to victory, the Lakers are still averaging a lot of assists and playing as a team WITH dominant Kobe. Luke Walton and Lamar are a key reason to that but they would not be getting as many assists if Kobe was not hitting as many shots.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Mar 27 2007, 04:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Anyway what is your point, the Suns are a run and gun team are based off passing the ball. The assists go THROUGH Nash. He might not be shooting but he is racking up most of the assists. Even with the best passing point guard on your team, the Lakers still rank up there with the Suns with assists even with Kobe scoring as well as he is.</div>Well duh the assists go through Nash, he's the point guard. And I already said it's easier for the lakers to get assists because they just give it to kobe and he shoots every other time. Suns move the ball through like 3 players every posession.
