Re: JVG's Lottery Idea Jeff Van Gundy wants every single team to have a chance at winning the NBA Lottery. He calls it a reward for losing and makes teams tank. Thoughts?
Re: JVG's Lottery Idea I understand his point however it is extremely unfair if the nba champions land the first pick. there is no sense of that
Re: JVG's Lottery Idea I agree with Celticsman, it would be totally unfair if the good teams had a shot. the lottery is already rigged to help certain teams as it is, we don't need to see the leagues favorites constantly having a top 3 pick.
Re: JVG's Lottery Idea ^Yeah, just imagine Oden or Durant next to J-Ho, Dirk, Jet, and Harris...We need this NOW.
Re: JVG's Lottery Idea This would never work, the strong teams would get stronger and the weak teams would be getting weaker. We need the lottery to even out the league a little bit, we can't have 15 strong teams and 15 weak teams. I would rather see every team as a potential threat.
Re: JVG's Lottery Idea <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC? @ Mar 27 2007, 01:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This would never work, the strong teams would get stronger and the weak teams would be getting weaker. We need to lottery to even out the league a little bit, we can't have 15 strong teams and 15 weak teams. I would rather see every team as a potential threat.</div>OK but the problem with that is, that the low teams AREN'T getting any better. They are just counting on the draft to save them every year and year after year it's not working for the majority of them.On the other hand the rich getting richer isn't the best thing for the league more than likely. I think all of the teams that win home court advantage in the playoffs should be excluded.So 22 teams would be in the lotto. Do an overhaul on the draft lotto itself to allow teams to be able to move up in general..not just move up into the top 3. of course the percentages of getting #1 would be WAY leaned towards the worst team then the 22nd...but at least they'd have a chance.
Re: JVG's Lottery Idea <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC? @ Mar 27 2007, 01:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This would never work, the strong teams would get stronger and the weak teams would be getting weaker. We need to lottery to even out the league a little bit, we can't have 15 strong teams and 15 weak teams. I would rather see every team as a potential threat.</div>The draft is not the end all to a teams problems unless you select Oden or Durant. And for that, teams are tanking. Teams should never tank. Awarding losing is never right. Most teams get better through free agency and trades. And it is unfair to take things away from the playoff teams.
Re: JVG's Lottery Idea I could see it work... but only if they do the odds right. For instance, just give the 16 teams that make the playoffs a lower chance of winning it... with the team with the best season record having like a 1% or less chance of winning it or something, and the team with the worst record in the league having like a 35% chance (I don't know what it really is, just throwing numbers out there).That would be beneficial to those teams that barely make the playoffs, in my opinion, because they would get the best of both worlds: the postseason, and a slight chance of winning the lottery or moving up in the draft.
Re: JVG's Lottery Idea That's what I think you're all thinking. JVG I don't think means that every team gets an EQUAL shot, just a shot. So they'd have like under a 2% chance from teams 15-30. I mean it won't matter anyway. What's the lowest team to win the lottery anyway? This won't make much of a difference.
Re: JVG's Lottery Idea I think that JVG actually has a point here.I think that the best 16 teams should only have a 2% or less chance of winning and the worst 16 should have a 5-35% chance of winning. Not only would this prevent teams from tanking - it would make the NBA a lot more interesting.
Re: JVG's Lottery Idea <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Mar 27 2007, 06:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think that JVG actually has a point here.I think that the best 16 teams should only have a 2% or less chance of winning and the worst 16 should have a 5-35% chance of winning. Not only would this prevent teams from tanking - it would make the NBA a lot more interesting.</div> Okay that would in no way stop teams from tanking to get lottery picks...
Re: JVG's Lottery Idea <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GArenas @ Mar 27 2007, 06:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Okay that would in no way stop teams from tanking to get lottery picks...</div>yah it would. every team has a shot now. It's completely unfair to give the worst teams a very small chance at the #1 pick.
Re: JVG's Lottery Idea <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Mar 27 2007, 06:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>yah it would. every team has a shot now. It's completely unfair to give the worst teams a very small chance at the #1 pick.</div>A 2% chance doesn't mean anything...If you tank you got more of a chance to get the #1 pick anyways thats what its trying to prevent. Only difference you have is that one team could get really lucky and end up creating a dynasty because they won the chip and the lottery...
Re: JVG's Lottery Idea <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GArenas @ Mar 27 2007, 06:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>A 2% chance doesn't mean anything...If you tank you got more of a chance to get the #1 pick anyways thats what its trying to prevent. Only difference you have is that one team could get really lucky and end up creating a dynasty because they won the chip and the lottery...</div>Well, it's absure to give the good teams a better than 2% chance and thew worst teams a less than 34% chance
Re: JVG's Lottery Idea <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Mar 27 2007, 06:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well, it's absure to give the good teams a better than 2% chance and thew worst teams a less than 34% chance</div>Its absurd to give the good teams a 2% chance they shouldnt have a chance. What I'm basically saying is that they should stick with the lottery they have right now.
Re: JVG's Lottery Idea <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Mar 27 2007, 05:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That's what I think you're all thinking. JVG I don't think means that every team gets an EQUAL shot, just a shot. So they'd have like under a 2% chance from teams 15-30. I mean it won't matter anyway. What's the lowest team to win the lottery anyway? This won't make much of a difference.</div>Actually yeah he did. He specifically said each team should have an "equal" chance, which obviously I think is flat out stupid. It'll just become too difficult for the lower tier teams to get better, then of course vice-versa with a few lucky teams ending up with stacked rosters.
Re: JVG's Lottery Idea Didn't Jeff Van Gundy win the lottery a few years ago and change his franchise around? Didn't the Cavaliers win the lottery and change their franchise around? Look at Denver with Carmelo Anthony, look at Orlando...etc... I think the draft lottery is solid. Most of the lottery teams in the NBA are rather poor, either poorly managed franchises or franchises that have had their time and are starting over. It's done this way in all other sports, at least in the NBA their is a lottery where every team has a chance inside the top 14, in the NFL and MLB it's just goes by worst record. If it weren't for the lottery Jeff Van Gundy would have a very average franchise right now, I don't agree with him at all. It's hard for poorly located teams to attract big-time talent, the draft gives these teams a chance.
Re: JVG's Lottery Idea <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Mar 27 2007, 02:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That's what I think you're all thinking. JVG I don't think means that every team gets an EQUAL shot, just a shot. So they'd have like under a 2% chance from teams 15-30. I mean it won't matter anyway. What's the lowest team to win the lottery anyway? This won't make much of a difference.</div>Back in 1992 the Magic won the lottery, drafted Shaq, came within a game or two of making the playoffs then won the lottery again.I say let it be. Sure, teams tank but it gives squads with nothing to be happy about something to look forward to. Imagine being a fan of the worst team in the league in April and May and watching everyone else fight for a playoff spot and then summer comes and you don't even have a top 10 pick. Keep it the way it is.
Re: JVG's Lottery Idea Here's how the lottery has been awful:1985 - The Pacers had the worst record but only got the 3rd pick in the first lottery ever me3aning no Patrick Ewing1997 - The Spurs had David Robinsons but he missed a season due to injury and the Spurs ended up with the 1st pick so they got Tim Duncan who joined the Admiral to improve an all ready excellent teamThere are many other incidents. As you can see the lottery is not always perfect
