Politics Don't Be Distracted

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  1. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    John fucking McCain.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Yup Orion. That' exactly how I think.... :morningtime:

    Check yourself and think, if he were white would I even have considered it?

    No one's calling you racist but Obama's race is the only reason anyone would have considered him being born in another country.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    I'll do that after you give me one white president who had his birth certificate questioned...
     
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    First, he wasnt Pres ( which we all know gets alot more scrutiny).

    Second, it looks like it was cleared based on this link....

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/01/AR2008050103224.html

    Thirdly, if I would have known about him evading questions or not providing evidence forthright, I would have questioned him too.

    I bet most people are unaware of Mccains issue because it didn't make the media presence that Obama did because OBAMA was PRES.

    That doesnt make someone racist....

    Do you think Im a racist? You have met me, hung out in my home. Do you think Im a racist? NO, but then this one thing makes me a racist?


    UGHH......
     
  5. MarAzul

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    Yes,
    Chester A Arthur
    Charles E Hughes
    Barry Goldwater
    George Romney
    John McCain
    and Recently Ted Cruz

    All passed because having American parents. Their place of birth is irrelevant.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Obama wasn't president either...

    Again, I never said I thought you were racist. I don't think so. What I said was Obama's race is the ONLY reason why anyone questioned his birth certificate in the first place.

    Ask yourself this:

    When was the first time I even HEARD about Obama's birth certificate and who did I hear it from?
     
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    Again, quite the jump to conclusions.

    I dont think you think IM a racist. Im trying to point out to you how you generalize and called me a racist regardless though and this generalizing is just as bad as the other side you are arguing with. It really stunts your points when you generalize and paint the canvas with one brush and color.

    There are levels here.
    Im sure some people went after Obama because they didnt want a Black Pres. (Shame on them). Doesnt mean that was the ONLY reason anyone questioned him.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Did you ask for Bobby Jindal's birth certificate?
     
  9. MarAzul

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    Nope. He was done before anyone could think of it.
    But I read Obama's book about his father. I knew he didn't qualify. For all the same reasons the list I gave you do qualify.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    But the birther shit was started by racists. Should he really have to show his birth certificate? No other president besides the made up situations Marazul just mentioned above, has had it even questioned.

    Who started the birther movement? It wasn't Hillary like the Fat Hutt said...

    There’s no definite answer to that question, as the 2008 iteration of the idea was first circulated, according to a Politico history of the theory, by anonymous email. But, as the primary season came to an end, it got a publicity boost from an ironic source: the attempt by the campaign to quash rumors led some people who might have previously ignored them to wonder what was going on.

    In 2008, Time explained how that happened:

    For more than a year, Obama relied on conventional means to confront the blogosphere’s superheated rumor mill—to little effect. The “fact-check” feature on his website, for instance, only seemed to spawn more, and wilder, rumors. A mention there of Obama‘s birth certificate spurred National Review Online to demand that he produce it to dispel groundless reports that Obama was actually born in Kenya and therefore would be constitutionally ineligible to be President; that his middle name is not Hussein but Muhammad; and that his mother actually named him Barry. That National Review article in turn became fodder for cable television.

    Even after Obama won the election, the idea did not go away. Years later, in 2011, Donald Trump, then toying with a 2012 run for the White House, was largely responsible for bringing it back into the news.

    But the cached version of that original 2008 Obama campaign response, the fact-check website fightthesmears.com, can still be found online. “Senator Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961, after it became a state on August 21st, 1959,” the website states. And, of course, it links to the documents that prove so—not that anyone should need to see them anymore.
     
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    Geez! You are an insufferable obtuse character. The press has always performed this role in the past, just as they did this go around on Cruz. They simply let the wonder boy, the new messiah skate! That is the difference.
     
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    This whole thread seems like a giant distraction.
     
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    @dviss1

    Hey man, I wasn't actually annoyed, and I know you didn't mean me as a racist. And I think you know I believe in your agenda. I'm just trying to help you stay on track and not let those generalizing statements undermine your points.
    Because they will.
    My statement about being annoyed was trying to imitate what some people on this board might feel when reading what you said is all. I know your intent is true and good and you aim for the betterment of our society as a whole, no matter our skin color.
    We all bleed red man. :cheers:
     
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    You and Marzul are so similar in one way.
    You're both so stuck in your ownself. You become the biggest hypocrites on this forum.

    I however have better things to do than talk to you about this anymore.
    I asked a question, you got hostile because of the question I asked.
    Have a nice life now yahear?
     
  15. MarAzul

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    Hey! If your going to libel a member, at least get it right! There is an A in MarAzul.
     
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    There is also an A in your sentence! ;)
     
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    Marazul might be stubborn in his ways but at least he is an adult about shit where as dviss is like a kid who didn't get the toy he wanted from toys r us so he freaks the fuck out.
     
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    I prefer tenacious.
     
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    HAHA but really? From you? Who cusses about everything and sounds like he is freaking out about everything?

    Lol. I know you aren't, we have had that discussion, but that should mean that you above most people around here should understand a person can read like he is freaking out when he isn't.

    Just sayin... ;)

    Its gonna be a FUN NIGHT IN S2!!!!!!!!! hahahah
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    My sister never got the toys she wanted because we were poor. She grew up, got a head nursing job making 6 figures, has kids and buys them everything so she's always broke.

    Everyone reacts to different things in different ways. I know that my dad couldn't keep a job because he liked weed. I'll never like weed and nobody can make me. My sister tried it in highschool and I was amazed, asked her if she forgot how bad it sucked to move to a nice normal house and then have to move back with gramma when he got fired.

    Couldn't believe it that she would touch the stuff.
     

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