Politics Voting

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  1. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    This was interesting to follow yesterday.

    Judge orders Alabama not to destroy voting records in Tuesday's Senate election

    A judge directed Alabama election officials Monday afternoon to preserve all digital ballot images in Tuesday's hotly contested U.S. Senate special election.

    An order granting a preliminary injunction was filed at 1:36 p.m. Monday - less than 24 hours before voting is to begin. The order came in response to a lawsuit filed Thursday on behalf of four Alabama voters who argued that the state is required to maintain the images under state and federal law.

    "All counties employing digital ballot scanners in the Dec. 12, 2017 election are hereby ordered to set their voting machines to save all processed images in order to preserve all digital ballot images," Montgomery County Circuit Judge Roman Ashley Shaul wrote in the order.

    Priscilla Duncan, attorney for the plaintiffs, applauded the order.

    "[The images] need to be preserved at least six months under the statute," Duncan told AL.com Monday afternoon. "They are being told at this point to preserve all digital ballot records."

    Reached by phone shortly after the injunction was issued Monday, Alabama Secretary of State John Merrill declined to comment. Merrill and Ed Packard, the state administrator of elections, are the two defendants named in the suit filed Thursday.

    "We don't comment on lawsuits," Merrill said.

    Digital ballot images are essentially digitized versions of the paper ballots Alabamians fill out in the voting booth. In Alabama, these digital images are destroyed once an election has passed, according to Duncan.

    "People think that when they mark the ballots and they go into the machine that that's what counted," she said. "But it's not, the paper ballot is not what's counted. That ballot is scanned and they destroy [the ballots] after the election ... If there's ever an election challenge you need to have what was actually counted."

    The destruction of the images allegedly opens the door to potential hacking because there are no hard copies of the ballots, according to Duncan.

    "The Department of Homeland Security notified our Secretary of State here that Alabama is one of the 21 states that had been targeting for hacking of election systems," she said, referring to this year's special election for Georgia's 6th congressional district.

    Shaul wrote in the order that destroying the images could have a negative impact on voters in Alabama.

    "After hearing arguments and reviewing the filings, it appears that Plaintiffs and similarly situated voters would suffer irreparable and immediate harm if digital ballot images are not preserved," the order states.

    http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/12/judge_orders_alabama_not_to_de.html
     
  2. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Then the state went to the Alabama Supreme Court last night...

     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    Who needs proof? Roy Moore will get 90 percent, you no believe me?
     
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    Fucking bullshit. Get ready for real right wing republican voter fraud. This country really doesn't give a shit about letting everyone vote.
     
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    What will the next system look like?
    Voting as a way to run society has about run it's course. It worked for years when there was room, and enough of everything to satisfy the population. But now as the populations increase, closing in on the unsustainable levels, giving every person the opportunity to vote for unsustainable promises cannot continue to be workable.
     
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    Will it improve? Or must it be considered?
     
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    What the fuck?!?
     
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    Asking this question is weird.

    Let me ask you this, do you believe that every american citizen should have the right to vote or not?
     
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    Work on it Sly! I know you can.
     
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    Sadly young people did not turn out for the last vote.....Trump won with 19 percent of the registered voters tallied...the numbers of voters under 30 was pathetic....I think we'll see a different statistic next election.....when leaders are liars...they do not instill confidence in the govt...that's where we stand today
     
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    Perhaps the question is needs refinement. Perhaps some some poling should not occur.
     
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    that's what Mussolini would have said
     
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    Yeah... Striaght out of Paul Weyrich's (founder of the Heritage Foundation) playbook.

     
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    Winston Churchill once said, Democracy is not a very good system.... This was over 80 years ago now.
     
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    The only polls that matter are exit polls.

    But this is the way we should vote:

     
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    Naw! Shit he had it easy, all he had to do was make the trains run on time.
     
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    well Britain has a monarchy, so they've made that decision...Brits I know disagree with Winston on this issue....and Tory's will be Tory's...very Benedict Arnold like......
     
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    I suspect that most in this forum would vote yeah on the following list;

    $15 minimum wage

    Free college tuition

    Free health care

    A 70% federal tax on your boss.
     
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    santeesioux Just keep on scrolling by

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    Don't look at me with this, I did my part and voted. #notallunder30s
     
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    Well you do know the rest of the Story?
    He continued the line, "it's just the best we have been able to come up with!" (well maybe nearly a quote)

    Anyway I bring it up now because old Winston is spot on but 80 years have passed now and it stil isn't very good and heading south as the we over populated the earth with more that want more.
     

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