<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The point is, we may rave about some of them a lot, but they clearly have a ton of potential. It's not just us, either, read the thread about "who has the brightest future." Notice all the people saying the Celtics, even if they aren't Celtic fans?</div>Actually, the Celtics didn't have much more votes than any other team. Other the the Raptors blowing the poll away, the Celts were right with Portland and Charlotte. I do agree with Celtic fans overrating almost every player on their roster, it gets pretty annoying sometimes.
I don't see how we overrated almost every player on our rosterWe just follow every player on our roster and their developmentIt may seem dumb but celtics fans love the celtics..I guarantee almost every Celtic fan on this site can name every player on the roster and their pros and consWe do overrate players but if you ever see a celtic site players like Telfair, Ray, Olowokandi, Scalabrine and scrubs like that get absolutely ripped upAlso...we know none of our young players are GREAT yet except maybe Al Jefferson but there's a few I would pick out of the bunch that have that potential (Rondo, Green, Gomes, West)
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Mar 29 2007, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It may seem dumb but celtics fans love the celtics..I guarantee almost every Celtic fan on this site can name every player on the roster and their pros and cons</div>I guarantee you that any fan of any basketball team can do that.
Yeah lol I knowI'm just saying...all basketball fans overrate their players..if you say you don't you're lyingYou want your team to be good and be the best they can beOf course we know a bunch of players on the Celtics are gonna be busts and never be good but it's the hope they will that keeps me watching every day
I think the Celtics media and some national media overhyped Sebastian Telfair when he came to Boston.His numbers this year reflect his career numbers. Either he hasn't turned the corner yet or he's one of those players that will never be much better than he is now.I think the Celtic fans wanted to believe he was the answer at point as the last memorable PG for Boston was Dennis Johnson and therefore may have overhyped him.thank gawd Rondo looks like the answer to our PG problems.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ming637 @ Mar 29 2007, 02:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wonder who that can be.Just because he's not mentioned on ESPN, that doesn't mean he's gonna be trash. Did you say that Gilbert Arenas, Michael Redd, Ben Wallace, etc weren't going to be the players they are right now? Why don't you go watch some NBA instead of listening to every word ESPN or BCB the self proclaimed "expert" he calls himself say.</div>BCB is smarter than most of the stuff you'll hear on ESPN. And ESPN does not talk about him because well, lets face it - 3 and 3 in 12 minutes on a team with relatively no frontcourt (unless you count Antwan who's more of a swingman) is terrible.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticFan @ Mar 29 2007, 03:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think the Celtics media and some national media overhyped Sebastian Telfair when he came to Boston.His numbers this year reflect his career numbers. Either he hasn't turned the corner yet or he's one of those players that will never be much better than he is now.I think the Celtic fans wanted to believe he was the answer at point as the last memorable PG for Boston was Dennis Johnson and therefore may have overhyped him.thank gawd Rondo looks like the answer to our PG problems.</div>Telfair is only 21 and the pg posistion is one of the hardest to learn in the NBA. The top pgs in the NBA today are 30 or over (Except for Deron Williams and Chris Paul)
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Mar 29 2007, 03:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>BCB is smarter than most of the stuff you'll hear on ESPN. And ESPN does not talk about him because well, lets face it - 3 and 3 in 12 minutes on a team with relatively no frontcourt (unless you count Antwan who's more of a swingman) is terrible.</div>His minutes very recently have gone up before christmas he was playing around 1-2 minutes a game, also he never said anything about how smart ESPN is. BTW, the Wizards are a scoring team and 70 points of the Wizards 105 a game come from the Big Three. Andray is never a scoring option on the floor. Read what you're replying to.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GArenas @ Mar 29 2007, 03:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>His minutes very recently have gone up before christmas he was playing around 1-2 minutes a game, also he never said anything about how smart ESPN is. BTW, the Wizards are a scoring team and 70 points of the Wizards 105 a game come from the Big Three. Andray is never a scoring option on the floor. Read what you're replying to.</div>I did read it. I was just pointing out about ESPN for no reason really. but the andray blatche comparrisons are ridiculous. I don't care what big 3 there is. if he was kg he'd be geting 20 10 and 5 maybe more because of the talento of his teamates.
I'm not arguing about that PFF, I've said numerous times that I don't think he'll be what KG is but I do believe that he has talent. I was explaining why he only averages 3 a game he is very capable right now of avereging more.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ming637 @ Mar 29 2007, 01:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wonder who that can be.Just because he's not mentioned on ESPN, that doesn't mean he's gonna be trash. Did you say that Gilbert Arenas, Michael Redd, Ben Wallace, etc weren't going to be the players they are right now? Why don't you go watch some NBA instead of listening to every word ESPN or BCB the self proclaimed "expert" he calls himself say.</div> Gilbert Arenas was 2 picks into the second round and was a very good college player leading one of the better college teams in the country and slipped because scouts freaked out that he was too small to play SG. Michael Redd helped lead OSU to the final four and was one of the big ten's best players. I'll give you Ben Wallace. Andray Blatche will be an average NBA player....he's your typical freak athlete with no real skills. He's young, but come on....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC? @ Mar 29 2007, 02:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Actually, the Celtics didn't have much more votes than any other team. Other the the Raptors blowing the poll away, the Celts were right with Portland and Charlotte. I do agree with Celtic fans overrating almost every player on their roster, it gets pretty annoying sometimes.</div>They didn't "blow the poll away," they had 3 more votes than the Celtics. The majority of the people definitely at least mentioned the Celtics in that thread, and I'm willing to bet that everybody that posted in their didn't vote either. And yes, we Celtic fans to get excited over our young talent, but every single one of us will also call out their flaws. I think you have a point, I mean we do have a TON of kool-aid drinkers in Celtic Nation, but the average die-hard Celtic fan is a very realistic as well.About Telfair (people below Tony's post), I find it funny that some people are writing him off like he's never going to improve. He's 21 years old. Will he be a star? No. Will he live up to his NYC hype? That's impossible for anybody to do. But he will at least be a solid player in this league, mark it down - "CelticBalla said Telfair will at least be a solid player in this league."And Ming, nobody is saying that Blatche will be a scrub. Nobody is calling him a piece of crap no-name, but at the same time - calling him the next superstar is ridiculous. You keep replying like people are calling him a D-League loser.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Mar 29 2007, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Telfair is only 21 and the pg posistion is one of the hardest to learn in the NBA. The top pgs in the NBA today are 30 or over (Except for Deron Williams and Chris Paul)</div>well I did say he MAY have not turned the corner yet, but he's got a few years in the league now and usually players start to put it together.he's never shot over 40% and let's face it, more players don't pan out than do.I don't see much in him that says he will be a good (re: starter) pg in the league.back up, sure.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Mar 29 2007, 02:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>About Telfair (people below Tony's post), I find it funny that some people are writing him off like he's never going to improve. He's 21 years old. Will he be a star? No. Will he live up to his NYC hype? That's impossible for anybody to do. But he will at least be a solid player in this league, mark it down - "CelticBalla said Telfair will at least be a solid player in this league."</div> Sebastian Telfair blows CB32....He's been overrated for years, hyped because of SLAM and being from NY...Telfair's a good guy, I hope he does well someday, but he's shown very little....
IMO, its too early to say if Telfair will be a star or not...he came into the NBA, outve highschool into arguebly the hardest position to play...and considering that his two teams havent been what you call "good". I think he can become a star...as a true point guard.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticFan @ Mar 29 2007, 03:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>well I did say he MAY have not turned the corner yet, but he's got a few years in the league now and usually players start to put it together.he's never shot over 40% and let's face it, more players don't pan out than do.I don't see much in him that says he will be a good (re: starter) pg in the league.back up, sure.</div>He hasn't shot 40%, but note that when he was starting (October/November combined) he was shooting 50%, 47% from 3, and over 80% from the line. He needs confidence, Doc shattered all the confidence he had then stomped on it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Mar 29 2007, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He hasn't shot 40%, but note that when he was starting (October/November combined) he was shooting 50%, 47% from 3, and over 80% from the line. He needs confidence, Doc shattered all the confidence he had then stomped on it.</div> Poor Sebastian Telfair....Doc ruined his confidence....he will never be the same....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Mar 29 2007, 03:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sebastian Telfair blows CB32....He's been overrated for years, hyped because of SLAM and being from NY...Telfair's a good guy, I hope he does well someday, but he's shown very little....</div>And I have agreed every time when people say he likely won't be a star. His NYC hype was out of his hands, if they see a good talent, they blow it up like he's the next Jordan. Bassy can't control what the media said about him when he was 17-18 years old. However, people are writing him off COMPLETELY like he's never going to get better. He is 21 years old.Should he have gone to college? Yes, but as you all saw in his DVD, he needed to take care of his family. He probably won't be a star, BCB, I know... but when people say "he blows" or "he sucks" I get pissed, because he's only 21 years old and he has shown plenty of flashes of what he can be. He has a good head on his shoulders, he has the talent. He needs time and he needs confidence.He was playing very solid basketball in October/November. Does he have troubles defensively? Yes, and I understand why Doc would move him out of the starting lineup to teach him a lesson. But to completely take him out of the rotation, scream at him every chance he gets on the sidelines, play Allan Ray over him (until this week), and shatter every ounce of confidence he had... VERY wrong. When Bassy is confident, he's a very solid player right NOW. Doc killed his spirits, I absolutely believe that.He will be at least a solid player in this league.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Mar 29 2007, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Poor Sebastian Telfair....Doc ruined his confidence....he will never be the same....</div>How do you expect a 21 year old point guard to get better and learn by completely benching him? Especially after he played VERY solid basketball on the offensive end.
