Zach Collins is ready

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  1. Strenuus

    Strenuus Well-Known Member

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    Nurk/Collins with Vonleh backing up either of them. HNNNNNGH.
     
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    I have hope it happens because tonight I saw Aminu get some run at the three.

    Collins better not go back to the bench when Nurk returns. If it were up to me, Nurk, Collins, and Vonleh would get the majority of the minutes at PF/C while the rest waive towels or get spot minutes.
     
  3. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    His free throws will be fine. He missed short twice. He has a smooth stroke and touch, so he'll be a 75%+ guy. FTs are the last thing you need to worry about with him.
     
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    Scalma Well-Known Member

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    He was around that % in college. What’s funny is that should be his floor, because I don’t see why he couldn’t shoot even better than that. I could see him consistently in the 80% range eventually.
     
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    Scalma Well-Known Member

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    If Collins hits his ceiling we’re not going to be saying “damn glad he worked out because Donovan Mitchell is great.” We’re going to be talking about why Philadelphia passed on him for Fultz. That’s how high his ceiling is.
     
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    I think you need some serious help man if you think that
     
  7. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    And the most important part?

    Nurk - 23 years old

    Vonleh - 24 years old

    Collins - 20 years old
     
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    What exactly is his ceiling though? I mean, a Marc Gasol rim protector, 37-38% 3pt shooter, 53% FGs? Maybe 16-18ppg, 10reb, 2.5blks? Not exactly sure what his ceiling is.
     
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    SIeepwalker The lone sane poster

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    That's a great thing, that means he's not a WABC !!!!
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Because you say so?
     
  11. Scalma

    Scalma Well-Known Member

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    A complete big with no weakness.
     
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  12. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    So he's a combo of Wilt, Russell, healthy Walton, Shaq, Olajuwan and prime Sabonis.

    Nice pick, Neil
     
  13. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    In fairness, @Scalma is saying that's his ceiling, not his present status or even his likely projection. That is to say, he doesn't seem to have any inherent limitations that would keep him from developing into a complete big with no weaknesses. He doesn't appear to be mentally fragile, athletically inferior, or fundamentally flawed. He's shown a basic ability to be effective in the post, competent on the perimeter, and excellent defensively. He has the basics, just needs the time, experience, and strength necessary to make the jump.

    Nobody says that he is on track to be an all-time great, but to this point he hasn't really shown us anything negative that will prevent him from becoming the best player in this draft (aside from the combination of his skin tone, projected position, and nation of origin, of course...)
     
  14. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    His PER has climbed into the positive.

    To 2.4 now.
     
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    So Markel Fultz is a complete guard because he hasn't shown any inherent limitations either?

    Dude has played 103 total minutes in the NBA. Has shot 39% from 2, and 22% from 3, yet he has 0 inherent limitations. He looks ok so far. He looks like the players I mentioned above compared to Meyers. Let's hold off on no weeknesses or inherent limitations for a bit though
     
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    Not to throw too much shade as Zach is finally showing us something at least.

    But MAN, Donovan Mitchell is balling his ass off right now. Over the last six games, he's putting up 27 ppg on great percentages (49/39/89) as a 21 yr old, and that too, he's pretty much their only big scoring threat. Reminds me of a rookie Wade. What a bummer, I thought he had high bust potential so I had no interest.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Again--nobody said Collins is a complete center or has no weaknesses; he said that's Collins' ceiling.
     
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    Stupid stays stupid.
     
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    It's exactly what someone said
     
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    Which is foolish after 103 total minutes
     

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