How much will Shabazz get?

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  1. BrianFromWA

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    I don't think you can bring up Tim Frazier and Brian Roberts (who were 3rd, emergency PGs) in reference to Shabazz, who's the backup...without also bringing up Jarrett Jack (still in the L, as a 34 y/o making 2M+ as a NYK backup); Jerryd Bayless (making $9M as a 76ers backup); Patty Mills (already mentioned, making 11M+ as a part-time starter in SAS); Jamal Crawford (making 15M this year between his ATL buyout and being a backup in MIN)...Mo Williams even played 2 more years in the L...

    Blazer backup PGs have seemed to do ok for themselves, both in cash flow and longevity. In the non-PG category, Luke Babbitt is still starting in the NBA. Like, now.
     
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    what? no Raymond Felton, Johnny Flynn, Nolan Smith, Armand Johnson on the list?
     
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    That is what the "..." is for, the ones I didn't put down. ;)

    Fatty was probably a repressed memory. But even he still has a job
     
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    not only would we get nothing 0f value for ET in a trade it would cost us a 1st rdr to dump him if it was for as expiring, or we'd have to take bad an equally bad contract, no easy way to get rid of ET I' afraid
     
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    Everything to do with it.
    Making a decision on Vonleh/Swannigan, makes the other a trade pc.....

    Keep up please...:)

    Davis wont get traded, Meyers will....
     
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    So I’ve done a little research on Denver and it’s been reported that they’ve tried to trade Mudiay. Would he be someone of interest for Olshey? He fits the philosophy Neil has talked about when targeting players in trades. Young guys that may have fallen down a depth chart that they liked in the draft process. Mudiays competitiveness probably appealed to Neil, question is would he be worth pursuing? He’s not much of a shooter, and we already have a similar prospect in Baldwin. I guess I answered my own question. Still seems like the type of opportunity Neil looks for. If not Mudiay, Beasley definitely should interest him.
     
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    When did Olshey say that? If he did, every new veteran here will feel insulted. Link?
     
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    I think we need to trade Bazz because we can't afford to pay him and he deserves to start somewhere. If we can get a 1st for him we have to do it. I would still hit up NYK and see what their interest is in him and Moe and how likely they are to give up a 1st for either of them.
     
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    https://buff.ly/2xUi5HX

    Mudiay and Beasley definitely fit what he’s talking about, but it’s anyones guess how high or low he was on either one. If I had to bet, I’d say he liked both.
     
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    I don't think people realize just how much money Paul Allen has....he can buy another submarine or pay a luxury tax...and write off the loss on his taxes....he's not a wage worker trying to make his money stretch
     
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    Rich people don’t stay rich but mindlessly throwing around money, which is what I’d describe paying luxury tax on a team hovering around .500.
     
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    rich people write off losses...some buy failing businesses just to avoid taxes....Paul Allen will never go broke..I always thought it silly to think guys like him were sweating the luxury tax...in fact, they're really not..
     
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    You found it. Good job. Olshey said it explicitly, not indirectly.
     
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    I didn’t mean he was going to go broke, I meant hes not foolish with his money.

    And how many tax paying teams are there? 5 if you include Portland. The others are legit playoff teams.
     
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    And if Allen didn’t care about luxury tax we wouldn’t have traded Crabbe for literally nothing, and we’d have a 15th man on the roster.
     
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    Olshey said he prefers to have a 14 man active roster...guy 15 just wears a suit anyway..with the two way contracts it's a plus to have an open spot
     
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    What else is he going to say; “we don’t want to pay any more than we already are?”
     
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    He's stated that money isn't an issue if it means winning now.....only here on this forum does it seem to be a panic issue...I never buy the line that Paul Allen ever sweats the cost of doing business no matter what he involves himself in...he gives away more money than he'd pay in tax for the Blazer payroll.
     
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    Actions speak louder than words and every action in the past year has hinted towards not being a luxury tax paying team. So unless they make a move that changes that, I’ll continue to assume they’re in salary cut mode.
     
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    He's in rebuilding mode....if he was in win now mode, it wouldn't be an issue...moving Crabbe had more to do with lack of production from Crabbe than money...if Crabbe was a true 2 way option, he'd probably be starting for the Blazers this season...addition by subtraction...moving Crabbe opened the door to go after Paul George and Melo...didn't pan out but they took a shot at it
     
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