If you don't see this as a symptom of a greater problem, I got nothin for you. I had to damn near cuss out my cousin the other day.
A few things on abortion: Pro Life was a term that was coopted by the Anti abortion crowd. Pro Lifers started as an anti death penalty group. Most Pro Lifers are: Pro gun, Pro capital punishment, Pro war, and Anti-healthcare for all. It's one thing to say you are pro choice. Me? I'm PRO PRIVACY. An abortion is a constitutionally protected right and a legal medical procedure. If you don't know about my Viagra, I don't get to know about your abortion because that information is PRIVATE. BTW, isn't ED God intended? Bottom line don't put bureaucrats in between patients and doctors. Now, don't GET me to quote why people shouldn't be using the bible to justify their stance against abortion.
Oh, yeah. Well there are different levels of greed from both sides and regular citizens. There's blame all around. My solutions would be extremely harsh and painful for a lot of lazy Americans.
Just because of my own ignorance on the topic, I looked up what the legalities relating to late term abortion are. Okay, it's from Wikipedia, so take it as you will: " The United States Supreme Court decisions on abortion, including Roe v. Wade, allow states to impose more restrictions on post-viability abortions than during the earlier stages of pregnancy. As of December 2014, forty-two states had bans on late-term abortions that were not facially unconstitutional under Roe v. Wade or enjoined by court order.[25] In addition, the Supreme Court in the case of Gonzales v. Carhart ruled that Congress may ban certain late-term abortion techniques, "both previability and postviability",[26] as it had done in banning intact dilation and extraction with the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003.[27] The Supreme Court has held that bans must include exceptions for threats to the woman's life, physical health, and mental health, but four states allow late-term abortions only when the woman's life is at risk; four allow them when the woman's life or physical health is at risk, but use a definition of health that pro-choice organizations believe is impermissibly narrow.[25] Note that just because a portion of a state's law is found to be unconstitutional does not mean that the entire law will be deemed unconstitutional: "nvalidating the statute entirely is not always necessary or justified, for lower courts may be able to render narrower declaratory and injunctive relief," meaning the court could declare that only those parts of the law that are violative of the Constitution are invalid (declaratory relief), or that the court can prohibit the state from enforcing those portions of the law (injunctive relief).[28] Eighteen states prohibit abortion after a certain number of weeks' gestation (usually 22 weeks from the last menstrual period).[25] The U.S. Supreme Court held in Webster v. Reproductive Health Services that a statute may create "a presumption of viability" after a certain number of weeks, in which case the physician must be given an opportunity to rebut the presumption by performing tests.[29] Because this provision is not explicitly written into these state laws, as it was in the Missouri law examined in Webster, pro-choice organizations believe that such a state law is unconstitutional, but only "to the extent that it prohibits pre-viability abortions".[30] Ten states (although Florida's enforcement of such laws are under permanent injunction) require a second physician's approval before a late-term abortion can be performed.[25] The U.S. Supreme Court struck down a requirement of "confirmation by two other physicians" (rather than one other physician) because "acquiescence by co-practitioners has no rational connection with a patient's needs and unduly infringes on the physician's right to practice".[31] Pro-choice organizations, such as the Guttmacher Institute, posit that some of these state laws are unconstitutional, based on these and other Supreme Court rulings, at least to the extent that these state laws require approval of a second or third physician.[25] Thirteen states have laws that require a second physician to be present during late-term abortion procedures in order to treat a fetus if born alive.[25] The Court has held that a doctor's right to practice is not infringed by requiring a second physician to be present at abortions performed after viability in order to assist in the case of a living fetus.[32]"
But look though... That 1% sliver of Food & Agriculture is where you're looking for fraud. There's lower hanging fruit B. CORPORATE welfare is where we need to trim the fat.
I should add that I don't mean the homeless are necessarily lazy. I have too much work on a Friday to get into it and nobody cares what I think anyway. If they do care they just get mad. Later
This assumption is bad for us all. Homeless people aren't all "lazy Americans". The VAST MAJORITY of them are mentally ill who were strewn to the wayside by Ronald Reagan. LOTS of them are Vietnam Veterans... Were they being lazy when the Hutt had "bone spurs"?
A truly excellent post. Thanks. I understand that most later term abortions historically have been due to health concerns (either for the fetus or the mother) but that doesn't account for all. And those are the ones that bother me. And it's not saying "We know better than women", it's saying the life of the newborn overrides the decisions of the Individual which just happens to be a woman. Now please don't get me wrong, I am pro choice, but this is the problem that I have. I do think that a woman, her loved ones, doctors, clergy are all closer to the situation then the government is and I think overall it's better the decision be left out of the governments prevue. My problem is more theory. I hear pro-choice activists talk about the woman's right to choose, but that comes across as callus without admitting that as time goes on there is a life at stake besides the mother. And scientifically I don't know where to draw the line. One possible choice is at conception, but to me that's ridiculous. Another option is at the point that the baby could possibly live outside the womb, around 5 months. Overall, I am just uncomfortable with this as a subject. I feel compassion for the women, what they go through, what they will go through. I also feel for the potential baby. It leaves me without answers. However, without a more definitive scientific guideline that makes sense to me, I would acquiesce to the Woman as the one who knows best her situation.
I share your concerns about late-term abortions, Further. I'm a grandfather to two wonderful, healthy boys who were both premies, born at 31 and 32 weeks respectively. One of them had an identical twin who was severely deformed and that pregnancy had to be terminated early on in order for his brother to survive. Those are the kinds of heart-breaking decisions that parents sometimes have to make even when they dearly want both babies to live. I think that, as crandc says, the vast majority of late term abortions are for medical reasons. But I do have concerns about the few that may be done for any number of reasons that may seem valid to the mother (economic concerns, breaking up with the father, etc.). A mother's right to choose, IMO, should never be questioned when there are sound medical reasons for the decision. But when those reasons don't exist, no matter how small that percentage may be, the baby's simple right to exist has to be a consideration at the point of viability. This issue is so fraught with religious and women's rights issues that I don't know if we'll ever be able to come up with laws that everyone can agree with, but that doesn't mean that we don't keep trying.
I get you are uncomfortable. So try googling women who have had late term abortions. Many of them were Catholic and evangelical Christians. One woman described herself as a conservative Republican who has participated in anti-abortion rallies. Read why these women needed late abortions. No one is being callous. A late abortion is very difficult for the woman. Which are the "other ones" you refer to that are not health concerns? The rape victim who kept saying stress made her periods stop, until 6 months and she had to admit she really did get pregnant from rape? You want to force her to carry to term? The 12 year old who did not recognize pregnancy? Either the pregnant person decides or someone forces a decision on her against her will. There are really no other alternatives. At least you agree the woman knows her situation better than anyone else. https://splinternews.com/these-women-needed-late-term-abortions-and-they-want-tr-1793863135 http://beta.latimes.com/opinion/op-...ns-on-medication-abortion-20170228-story.html https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/apr/18/late-term-abortion-experience-donald-trump
Term ain't over yet... This is one of my bigger issues, not Syria per se, but that President Obama had a mandate in 2009 to wreck shop to the Foreign Policy/Military things that the D's said they hated and bring money back into the US. He had the veto-proof Congress. He had support (not that I agreed with it, but whatever) of his Secretaries and nominations for high military office. If he wanted to be more globally liked and isolationist (not that I would, but I understand the logic) he and his team went about it in horrible fashion. Instead, we had more war (under crazier ROE and less chance of ever "winning"), worse recognition of "sides", and a (some might say "continuing", after the Bush years) repeal of our "Might For Right" philosophies in order to supplicate some people's flawed ideas of realpolitik. GTMO could've been shut down on Day One of the administration. We could've "pulled out" of a bunch of places, or given the mandate to "win and go home", but the wretched middle was attempted to be played with little regard for national strategy or 2nd- and 3rd-order effects. The reason for my "throwaway" vote...hoping to get to the 5% threshold...
I know the stats, just “fessing up” as it were to my incongruent political stance. There is a person i know who is renting a house from their mom via section 8 (illegal) through his girlfriend, and then renting out rooms in it (illegal) for extra cash. So the mom gets a fat check from the government every month and the shitbirds live it up. Even though they could afford to pay rent easily. I know it shouldnt bother me, but it does. My bad i guess.
See the post right above yours. I was in a rush and it was easier than editing my post. The lazy people are those of us who can't paint our own kitchen or mow our own yard. That's who I was referring to. I don't know how much blame Reagan shares but I saw a YouTube video that describes some earlier bill that shoulders a lot of blame for the mental health system being what it is. Blaming Reagan is certainly what I've heard people say over the years.
Some interesting information in this analysis from FactCheck.org: https://www.factcheck.org/2015/09/clinton-off-on-late-term-abortions/
I am obviously a stinking liberal, though it may suprise many of you that I consider myself a moderate liberal. Here are some issues and how I feel about them. Nuclear War: This concerns me most at the moment in our current political atmosphere. With our president arguing with a leader of a country that is threatning us with nuclear war about who's button is bigger and daring Un to fire missiles at us. Alarming...I mean WTF man. Living Wage: Minimum wage isn't enough. The rent is too damn high...the lower class is treading water with inflation and small increases in wage. It doesn't do any good to increase wages if inflation is going to cancel it out. People need living wages so they don't habe yo choose between paying the rent\utilities and putting food on the table. Welfare: It is a neccessary system but one that is flawed. Families keep falling back into the hole that welfare patches up but doesn't really help them get out of. There gave been new sets of rules put in to stop people who would take advantage of the system, but some are too strict and hurt families who aren't taking advantage. Homeless: This is a tough issue. There are many who choose the homeless life or who have given in and don't care to get off the streets. But, there are many more who have fallen through the cracks and find themselves sleeping on sidewalks and under bridges. I have been there myself and got tired of it quickly. Luckily I had help though, and through hard work was able to get where I am today. But, its not easy. I don't agree with treating homeless people as criminals and shooing them away, putting them in jail, or sending them away on buses to be other cities problems. That doesn't fix anything. Now there are alot of resources here in Portland I know this personally. You couldn't go hungry if you tried. There are shelters but many are overnight only. There are some places where homeless people can stay till they get on their feet. There needd to be more and thats the answer. Get homeless people off the streets and into live in shelters, where they can bathe, clean their clothes, look for work, and save up money to get their own place. Comb the streets for homeless juviniles and get them bavk to their families or into shelters, foster care, etc. Also the rent is too damn high. Alot of people cant afford it with their wages and families lose their apartments\homes and are stuck on the street. Something has to be done. Education: The public school system has gone to shit. It needs to be revamped. Each year more and more cuts are made. Schools are closed. Teachers are let go. The system of test score jokeying is a joke. Children need to be allowed to be creative. Physical ed, art, drama, and music are important and are continued to be cut. Its a shit show. Abortion: I don't believe in abortion but I believe its a womans right. I know there are reasons to do so such as health, victims of rape, inability to support the child...I feel though that if a child can be born healthy it should and should be given away for adoption rather than aborted. But again its a wonans choice. Healthcare: I believe affordable healthcare should be available to everyone who needs it and free healthcare for those who can't afford it. Some people spend their whole checks on rent bills and food and there is nothing left to pay insurance. They shouldn't be left without...and affordable healthcare should not mean shitty healthcare. I dont believe people should be forced to have health care either.
