Re: The Raptors are second in the East! It doesn't look right, but the raptors are second in the East! We are 40-32 and are on pace for a possible 45+ win season/. If we do retain our position, we wont have a hard time in the playoffs playing Orlando and moving on to the second round. Sam Mitchell definetely deserves COTY in my opinion.EDIT: they jus fixed it. We are third still.
Re: The Raptors are second in the East! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Mar 31 2007, 12:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It doesn't look right, but the raptors are second in the East! We are 40-32 and are on pace for a possible 45+ win season/. If we do retain our position, we wont have a hard time in the playoffs playing Orlando and moving on to the second round. Sam Mitchell definetely deserves COTY in my opinion.EDIT: they jus fixed it. We are third still.</div>You're 3 games behind Cleveland with 10 games left in your regular season. That would be very hard to do, it would need Cleveland to collapse in the last week and for the Raptors to go on a win streak. Not to mention a key part of playing in the playoffs is experience which the Raptors lack. You will stay at third seed and match up against the Wizards or the Heat both of which have a very large chance of beating you. 45+ wins really isn't anything special, I don't know why you believe you're 2 in the east...
Re: The Raptors are second in the East! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GArenas @ Mar 31 2007, 12:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You're 3 games behind Cleveland with 10 games left in your regular season. That would be very hard to do, it would need Cleveland to collapse in the last week and for the Raptors to go on a win streak. Not to mention a key part of playing in the playoffs is experience which the Raptors lack. You will stay at third seed and match up against the Wizards or the Heat both of which have a very large chance of beating you. 45+ wins really isn't anything special, I don't know why you believe you're 2 in the east...</div><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>It doesn't look right, but the raptors are second in the East! We are 40-32 and are on pace for a possible 45+ win season/. If we do retain our position, we wont have a hard time in the playoffs playing Orlando and moving on to the second round. Sam Mitchell definetely deserves COTY in my opinion.EDIT: they jus fixed it. We are third still.</div>I was talking about NBA.com standings.However we have a more than better chance of beating the Wizards this year. We have had your number all year, and we lead the season series 3-1. Also, 45+ is good for a team that had only 27 wins last year. We would be +18 if we racked up 45 wins.
Re: The Raptors are second in the East! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Mar 31 2007, 12:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I was talking about NBA.com standings.However we have a more than better chance of beating the Wizards this year. We have had your number all year, and we lead the season series 3-1. Also, 45+ is good for a team that had only 27 wins last year. We would be +18 if we racked up 45 wins.</div>Wizards made a huge improvement from '03-04 to '04-05. We went from 25 wins to 45 wins. Anyways, we'd beat you guys in 6. No doubt.
Re: The Raptors are second in the East! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Mar 31 2007, 12:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I was talking about NBA.com standings.However we have a more than better chance of beating the Wizards this year. We have had your number all year, and we lead the season series 3-1. Also, 45+ is good for a team that had only 27 wins last year. We would be +18 if we racked up 45 wins.</div>I seriousely hope you don't think the season series means anything. The Wizards swept the Cavs in last years season series and lost the playoff series. The playoffs are a completely different atmosphere which you will come to know. The Raptors lack of playoff experience will leave them slow to begin the series and by this time the Wizards will have a healthy roster which is something they have lacked all year. Now with finally Caron's return our chemistry will develop back to where it was in January. Do not look at the Wizards record and judge the team, our big three has been split apart because of injuries over and over in 2007 and do not think because of your win tonight the Raps are better than the Wiz.
Re: The Raptors are second in the East! Raptors do actually have experiance when it comes to the playoffs, Parker, Bargnani, Peterson, Ford and Rasho have all played a big part of their former/currents teams when they were making a run for a championship whether it be in the NBA or Europe. I would mention Garbajosa but hes done for the seaosn.
Re: The Raptors are second in the East! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MosDefinitely @ Mar 31 2007, 01:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Raptors do actually have experiance when it comes to the playoffs, Parker, Bargnani, Peterson, Ford and Rasho have all played a big part of their former/currents teams when they were making a run for a championship whether it be in the NBA or Europe. I would mention Garbajosa but hes done for the seaosn.</div>Uh.. sure, that helps.The thing is, the Raptors haven't played together in a playoff game. Their chemistry should be questioned going into the playoffs.
Re: The Raptors are second in the East! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zards @ Mar 31 2007, 12:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wizards made a huge improvement from '03-04 to '04-05. We went from 25 wins to 45 wins. Anyways, we'd beat you guys in 6. No doubt.</div>What in earth are you talking about? The Wizards won 36 games in 2003. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GArenas @ Mar 31 2007, 12:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I seriousely hope you don't think the season series means anything. The Wizards swept the Cavs in last years season series and lost the playoff series. The playoffs are a completely different atmosphere which you will come to know. The Raptors lack of playoff experience will leave them slow to begin the series and by this time the Wizards will have a healthy roster which is something they have lacked all year. Now with finally Caron's return our chemistry will develop back to where it was in January. Do not look at the Wizards record and judge the team, our big three has been split apart because of injuries over and over in 2007 and do not think because of your win tonight the Raps are better than the Wiz.</div>You guys should be the last team talking about injuries. We went 12 games without Bosh, a few without Calderon, Garbajosa is out for the rest of the season, and Bargnani for quite a while as well. Also, dont give me that playoff experience crap because the most you guys have ever been to in the past 10 years I believe was the first round. Not to mention most of your teams superstars being in only about 6 playoff games. You guys had no depth, your bench is weak, and we would outrun you guys in a 7 game series. there is no way you can make an educated assumption that you guys would win 4 games and us 2. That makes absolutely no sense. Our frontcourt is better than yours, and your defense is completely terrible. You guys give up 105 points a game for heaven sakes.
Re: The Raptors are second in the East! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MosDefinitely @ Mar 31 2007, 01:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Raptors do actually have experiance when it comes to the playoffs, Parker, Bargnani, Peterson, Ford and Rasho have all played a big part of their former/currents teams when they were making a run for a championship whether it be in the NBA or Europe. I would mention Garbajosa but hes done for the seaosn.</div>Ford played for a Bucks roster that got abused by the Pistons. That's not a true series that comes down to the final games. Although you did not bring him up, do not bring up Juan Dixon. He had one beast game in the playoffs while all the other games he shot 1/12 from the field. Playing in euro teams playoffs is not going to help at all come NBA playoff time. It is pretty estabelished that NBA basketball is much different than Euro Bball. Mo Pete has played a total 13 playoff games in his career, 8 of them was his rookie year and he hardly played. Not to mention that was 6 years ago.
Re: The Raptors are second in the East! I agree with you on some parts, like when you mentioned Ford and Dixon but players like Parker, Garbajosa and Bargnani had been a big part of their teams across the pond during their playoffs, look at Garbajosa this past summer winning it all for Spain! Although we are a little inexperianced I still think the Rapotrs are going to hold their own in the playoffs.
Re: The Raptors are second in the East! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Mar 31 2007, 01:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What in earth are you talking about? The Wizards won 36 games in 2003. You guys should be the last team talking about injuries. We went 12 games without Bosh, a few without Calderon, Garbajosa is out for the rest of the season, and Bargnani for quite a while as well. Also, dont give me that playoff experience crap because the most you guys have ever been to in the past 10 years I believe was the first round. Not to mention most of your teams superstars being in only about 6 playoff games. You guys had no depth, your bench is weak, and we would outrun you guys in a 7 game series. there is no way you can make an educated assumption that you guys would win 4 games and us 2. That makes absolutely no sense. Our frontcourt is better than yours, and your defense is completely terrible. You guys give up 105 points a game for heaven sakes.</div>You're joking right. The Wizards won 25 games in 2003, we know our team much better than you do. Also the Wizards offense is very fragile, we haven't had our role players for the entire season. That did not stop os from surging to the top of the eastern conference by the end of December. However after this the big three started getting injured which slowed down the Wizards fast break game slowed, slashing, and ability to spread out the D with Antawn's three point shooting. You lost a couple of role players and Bosh for 12 games, Wizards have not had a part of the big three for 22 games. If you do not think this effects the Wizards that much look at thier record without Caron (2-8) and our record without Antawn (4-8). These guys are such a key role in the Wizards offense that it completely damages the team going into a game without them. BTW, you seriousely need to read up on your facts. Nearly all your facts are incorrect, specifically the one about playoff experience and how deep we have gotten. @ you actually thinking you would outrun the Wizards in a 7 game series. BTW, just becuase you have Chris Bosh doesn't mean your frontcourt is better than yours. God seriousely know something about the NBA, the Suns have a lack of defense and alot of people are predicting them to win the championship. Now we don't have hte weapons the Suns do so we're not nearly as good of a team but Wizards can eaisly win a series against the Raptors. Also you remember Showtime, yeah one of the greatest Lakers squads of all time. That team was a very fast run offense as well. Bench in the early part of hte playoffs isnt that important, it really comes into a big effect come close matchups in round two. BTW, the raptors bench is not much better without Garbajosa or Bargnani. Wizards would win in no more than 6 games, mark my words.
Re: The Raptors are second in the East! And this is why I've always stuck by Sam Mitchell. The guy is a Grade-A hard ass, he's had his media troubles, and he's had troubles with players. Many people dissed him for this (I believe there was a players poll that said Mitchell was the worst coach in the NBA just last year), but they failed to realize, such is life.The Raptors' success is not all due to a fiery Sam Mitchell, but much credit must go there, seeing as he is the embodiment of their offensive scheme nowadays. Play unselfishly, play smart, and then when you get to the defensive end, at least give it a shot.
Re: The Raptors are second in the East! We definately won't get ahead of Cleveland in the East, but I sure hope we can get a 3rd seed. If we do, I'd much rather play Washington than the Heat...
Re: The Raptors are second in the East! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zards @ Mar 31 2007, 12:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wizards made a huge improvement from '03-04 to '04-05. We went from 25 wins to 45 wins. Anyways, we'd beat you guys in 6. No doubt.</div>^What makes you so confident that the Wizards would beat the Raptors. The Raps have been playing better ball than the Wizards for some time now, and they have been rolling as of late. Bosh is playing great, Ford is playing great, and they have so many role players that do a good job for them. I think that if these two teams played, it would be a 7 game series, and I dont know who I'd pick. Washington has some experience on them considering they played in a good series last year, so I might give them the slight edge, but this series wouldnt be a push over.
Re: The Raptors are second in the East! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Mar 31 2007, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>^What makes you so confident that the Wizards would beat the Raptors. The Raps have been playing better ball than the Wizards for some time now, and they have been rolling as of late. Bosh is playing great, Ford is playing great, and they have so many role players that do a good job for them. I think that if these two teams played, it would be a 7 game series, and I dont know who I'd pick. Washington has some experience on them considering they played in a good series last year, so I might give them the slight edge, but this series wouldnt be a push over.</div>Again, alot of that is due to the injury problems which have been ravaging the Wizards. I still think that the Wizards will beat out the Heat for the division and could catchup to the Raptors due to the rest of our schedule being amazingly easy. 6 games is far from being a pushover, Washington and Cleveland went at it last year for 6 games every game went down to the final seconds but Cleveland pulled through. Washington and Chicago went at it for 6 games, three games were decided at the buzzer and Washignton pulled through. In no way is a 6 game series a blow out. Washington is the better team than Toronto, we can run faster than them and our much more experienced along with the fact our team has been together and played with each other much longer. Our regular season since January has had a large amount of injuries and hopefully now that Caron is finally back we can put it together and get through this final stretch.The only real advantage that Toronto has against the Wizards is that Sam Mitchell can way out coach Eddie Jordan. Do not say defense because we will see how good Toronto's defense is when they get into a running match with the Wizards. I get that Tornto runs too but not nearly at the pace of the Wizards who let me remind you have out-ran even the Suns. The Wizards offense is completely dominant over the Raptors and the experience goes our way.
Re: The Raptors are second in the East! to clairfy the Wizards record in 03/04http://www.databasebasketball.com/teams/te...tm=was&lg=n25 wins it is...as for a Wiz/Raptors match up.well that would be interesting to say the least.Raptors are more balanced and have a better bench, Wizards have 3 all-stars to Toronto's 1.both teams have good chemistry as the Raptors have put it together in the for the last 2/3's of the year.I see this series going at least 6 games and if I had to bet my car on it, I'd go with Washington because of the experienced players they have.
Re: The Raptors are second in the East! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Mar 31 2007, 01:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What in earth are you talking about? The Wizards won 36 games in 2003. You guys should be the last team talking about injuries. We went 12 games without Bosh, a few without Calderon, Garbajosa is out for the rest of the season, and Bargnani for quite a while as well. Also, dont give me that playoff experience crap because the most you guys have ever been to in the past 10 years I believe was the first round. Not to mention most of your teams superstars being in only about 6 playoff games. You guys had no depth, your bench is weak, and we would outrun you guys in a 7 game series. there is no way you can make an educated assumption that you guys would win 4 games and us 2. That makes absolutely no sense. Our frontcourt is better than yours, and your defense is completely terrible. You guys give up 105 points a game for heaven sakes.</div>Sorry but the Raptors injuries aren't bad at all...the Wizards had worse problemsThe Big Three were barely together on WashingtonThe Raptors were one of the luckier teams injury-wise this year
Re: The Raptors are second in the East! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticFan @ Mar 31 2007, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>to clairfy the Wizards record in 03/04http://www.databasebasketball.com/teams/te...tm=was&lg=n25 wins it is...as for a Wiz/Raptors match up.well that would be interesting to say the least.Raptors are more balanced and have a better bench, Wizards have 3 all-stars to Toronto's 1.both teams have good chemistry as the Raptors have put it together in the for the last 2/3's of the year.I see this series going at least 6 games and if I had to bet my car on it, I'd go with Washington because of the experienced players they have.</div>Raptors bench will be smaller without Jorge Garbajosa and Andrea Bargnani. That will become annoying for them during the playoffs. It is also known that the big three can play 48 minutes a game, especially in the playoffs. I'm not saying they will but they can rack up the minutes if they need to and that will result in less reliance on the bench.
Re: The Raptors are second in the East! Wow, your 8 games over .500 in the Eastern Conference, you want a cookie? For the last 3 years Sam Mitchell has been called one of the top worst coaches in basketball, been hated/called for firing by Raptors fans , now over the offseason they add smarter/experienced talent and now he's a coach of the year candidate according to fans because he's 8 games over .500 in the most sh*tty conference in all of sports. Give me a break. You put Phil Jackson, Nate McMillan, Jerry Sloan in Toronto and they could do a better job with that team. Sam Mitchell winning COY would be a complete joke.
