Politics Tillerson and Mattis are reportedly trying to hold Trump back from striking North Korea

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    All true, except your entire post which is all false.

    NK has never kept their word nor followed even one of the multiple agreements signed over my lifetime.

    Learn at least a smidgeon of political history first, then post.
     
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    Just when NK and SK are trying to resolve matters by including the North in border phone communications and the Olympic games, TNT for Trump can't keep his hands off his button in the pants.
     
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    Um, it was a shooting war. As recently as 2010, NK sunk a SK warship in SK waters. We stood down the entire 7th Fleet last year when one of our ships bumped another ship in the night and killed 10 sailors...but in 2010/11 we bowed to Chinese sentiment and general clownshoery of the UN when the NKs capped off a winter of small-scale naval "battles" (Daecheong 1 and 2) and artillery barrages against our allies with the sinking of the Cheonan. 46 sailors were killed and a destroyer sunk.
    What this rhetoric seems to have done is a) embolden our SK ally, b) show Russia and China that we're not the predictable "strategically patient" administration that we were for the last decade or two, c) tell the world we don't necessarily care what they think when it comes to our security interests, and d) work. As you point out, when the Koreans are talking, there isn't generally nuclear testing or missile testing going on. President Park stopped talking in 2016 and has since been embolded to talk as a peer rather than a subordinate.

    That said, the NKs have carried out 5 more nuclear tests in the last decade than the rest of the world combined. Sanctions didn't work. Resolutions haven't worked. Tweeting may not work. But to say that it's made a decent situation worse is...probably not accurate.
     
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    This is way beneath you, Brian. If the Olympics in South Korea had happened a few years ago and the two sides had decided talk a bit after Obama said (or tweeted) a few positive sentiments, you'd spit ridicule upon anyone who tried to suggest that correlation implied causation and Obama's twitter or press release diplomacy had "worked."

    You simply prefer bellicose aggression (as I see it) to "namby pamby liberal let's-talk-it-out" sentiment (as you see it) and are seizing on a convenient confluence of events to offer a twist of logic that I'm sure even you don't seriously credit in your own mind in order to push your preferred narrative. ;)
     
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