OT Damn good judge

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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    LANSING, Mich. — Judge Rosemarie Aquilina listened on Monday morning as yet another gymnast, one of scores coming forward in her courtroom, took her turn excoriating Lawrence G. Nassar, a prominent doctor for U.S.A. Gymnastics who has pleaded guilty to multiple sex crimes.

    The young woman finished, and Judge Aquilina, who has now allowed nearly 140 girls and women, including several prominent Olympic gymnasts, to give statements against Dr. Nassar, leaned forward from the bench. She smiled at the gymnast, Bailey Lorencen, and delivered her own heartfelt statement in a manner and tone befitting a therapist.

    “The military has not yet come up with fiber as strong as you,” Judge Aquilina told Ms. Lorencen, calling her a “heroine” and a “superhero.” She added: “Mattel ought to make toys so that little girls can look at you and say, ‘I want to be her.’ Thank you so much for being here, and for your strength.”

    Belying the stone-faced image of dispassionate jurists, Judge Aquilina has emerged as an unusually fierce victims’ advocate in a sentencing hearing that has drawn national attention for the scope of Dr. Nassar’s abuse and for the role that institutions like U.S.A. Gymnastics and Michigan State University played in employing him for decades.

    Judge Aquilina’s vow to let every victim speak has also unexpectedly turned the hearing into a cathartic forum that has emboldened dozens of women who had remained silent to come forward with accounts of abuse by Dr. Nassar. Court officials initially had expected 88 young women to speak when the hearing began last week, but the number is expected to top 150 by the time these proceedings conclude, likely Wednesday morning.

    Judge Aquilina, 59, who has written crime novels and served 20 years in the Michigan Army National Guard, has offered encouragement, consolation and tissues. She has made no secret that she wants Dr. Nassar to spend the rest of his life suffering in prison.

    And, in an extraordinary session streamed live on the internet over several days, she has opened her courtroom to any victim who wishes to speak, for however long she wishes to speak. That goes for their coaches and parents, too.

    “Leave your pain here,” Judge Aquilina told one young woman, “and go out and do your magnificent things.”

    Stephen Gillers, a professor of law at New York University, said that although judges are often thought of as unbiased and impartial, it is important to remember that this is a sentencing hearing, not a trial. Dr. Nassar, who has already received a 60-year federal sentence for a child pornography conviction, pleaded guilty to several state sexual assault charges and will be sentenced after the “victim impact statements” are finished.

    “At a sentencing, a judge can say and is encouraged to say just what she thinks,” Mr. Gillers said in a telephone interview. “What’s unusual here is that the number of victims who are willing to speak has given the judge more than 100 opportunities to do that.”

    Sure enough, Judge Aquilina has punctuated each and every victim statement with some words of her own — a mix of praise, gratitude and support for the women who have come forward to address the court and, in many instances, Dr. Nassar himself, who has been a captive to it all from the witness box. Occasionally he has teared up, but mostly he sits passively, staring down at papers in front of him.

    On Tuesday, Judge Aquilina heard from nearly 30 more victims: sisters who said that Dr. Nassar had molested them; a former rower at Michigan State, who said she had received no response to two separate reports of abuse against Dr. Nassar; and several others who described the crippling effects of depression and mental illness they attributed to Dr. Nassar’s behavior.

    “You are so strong and brave,” Judge Aquilina said.

    Judge Aquilina’s unconventional approach has not elicited any discernible criticism, but she has generated attention. Not only has she opened the floodgates to emotional testimony in a very pronounced way, but she seems determined to lend her voice, shedding any pretense of judicial distance.

    Several victims — and their parents — have thanked Judge Aquilina, including Doug Powell, whose daughter Kassie spoke out last week as one of Dr. Nassar’s many accusers.

    “Judge Aquilina, I applaud you,” Mr. Powell said after his daughter addressed the court. “We applaud you. This room applauds you.”

    The use of victim impact statements has generated debate in sentencing hearings before juries, as some scholars have questioned the tactic as an obvious emotional ploy meant to sway the panel for a tougher term.

    But in this case, there is no jury and, between the federal sentence and the pending state one, the judge had previously indicated that Dr. Nassar, 54, would probably die in prison.

    And so she has turned it into a rolling demand for accountability by the people who were supposed to protect the victims.

    “The severe nature of the crime was compounded many times over by the failure of adults who knew or should have known that crimes were occurring to take action to protect the victims,” said Janice Nadler, a law professor at Northwestern University who has written about victim impact statements.

    She added: “Permitting the victim impact statements of all individuals who Nassar abused is the government’s opportunity to counter Nassar’s message: to demonstrate to the victims that they matter, that their lives matter, that the state stands ready to impose the punishment that Nassar deserves.”

    Judge Aquilina locally has a reputation for blunt talk and wearing cowboy boots under her robes.

    A 2014 profile in the Washtenaw County Legal News said her nickname in the military was “Barracuda Aquilina” and reported her role in several high-profile cases, including a ruling in 2013 that Detroit’s bankruptcy filing violated the state Constitution. She sent a copy of her ruling to President Barack Obama.

    “My message to Obama was: ‘Get ready to cough up some federal money. This is coming,’” she told the paper.

    When Dr. Nassar sent Judge Aquilina a letter last week complaining about his emotional distress hearing the statements, she responded with a withering attack.

    “Spending four or five days listening to them is significantly minor,” she said, “considering the hours of pleasure you had at their expense and ruining their lives.”

    Judge Aquilina has repeatedly assured the women that she is listening to them and that “the whole world” is listening to them, too.

    Ms. Lorencen, for example, arrived at Ingham County Circuit Court in Lansing, Mich., on Monday morning fully aware that dozens of other young women had come before her. It was the start of the fifth day in the sentencing hearing, but Ms. Lorencen, 22, wanted to be sure that her voice was still heard.

    “I feel that many of the things I’m going to say are similar to what has already been said by 100 other victims,” Ms. Lorencen said as she read from prepared notes. “We know there are well over that many. But we cannot let that dilute the importance of each of our stories.”

    Judge Aquilina had anticipated that the hearing would conclude after four days. But over the course of the proceedings, more women who have accused Dr. Nassar of abuse have come forward wanting to deliver their own statements. Many of them have said they felt empowered by what was happening at the court.

    Judge Aquilina made it clear from the start that she would accommodate them all, welcoming each to her courtroom the same way.

    “Thank you,” she says. “What would you like me to know?”


    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/23/sports/larry-nassar-rosemarie-aquilina-judge.html
     
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    Nassar should burn.
     
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    So glad this is happening! Thank you, Judge.
     
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    Date of the article is the 23rd.
     
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    Sorry, my bad. Just read the title. I thought it was an article, floating around, about another judge who was "hearing from god" in the court room.... typical Reddit stuff.

    And Nassar SHOULD burn. Hopefully for all eternity.
     
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    Larry Nassar was sentenced to 40 to 175 years in prison today by Judge Rosemarie Aquilina for 10 counts of first-degree criminal sexual conduct. The sentence came down following the seventh day of victim impact statements in the Ingham County, Mich., courtroom, after 156 women spoke in open court about the damage done by Nassar’s serial sexual abuse of them, done under the guise of providing them with medical treatment. Nassar, who already is serving time in prison after pleading guilty on child pornography charges, will have this sentenced added on to the 60 years he is currently already serving in federal prison.

    https://deadspin.com/larry-nassar-sentenced-to-40-to-175-years-in-prison-1822355055
     
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    Maybe not. This dude may get exactly what he deserves. Can you imagine the life this dirt bag will have in prison? His status will be very low.
     
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    General Population.
     
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    Here's what she said when she read his sentence:

    "It is my privilege -- on counts 1, 2, 5, 8, 10 and 18 and 24 -- to sentence you to 40 years.

    I'm going to look at my cheat sheet: 40 years, just so you know and you can count it off your calendar, is 480 months.

    The tail end -- because I need to send a message to the parole board in the event somehow God is gracious and I know he is -- and you survive the 60 years in federal court first and then you start on my 40 years. You've gone off the page here as to what I'm doing. My page only goes to 100 years.

    Sir, I'm giving you 175 years, which is 2100 months.

    I've just signed your death warrant."

    I'm giving the judge a standing ovation for her work on this case.
     
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    This guy is a total piece of shit. I can't imagine how he even got away with this for so long.

    Am I the only one who finds the judge openly taking such pleasure in punishing this asshole a problem?

    If it were up to me someone would just kill the guy already but this is like when the cops beat the hell out of a suspect. Just do your job.

    Please for the love of God don't make this into me defending him. If it were up to me they'd hook a shock collar to him and let the victims take turns torturing him.
     
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    He got away with it because many of them were barely more than children and he was authority figure. They sacrificed everything for the chance to be Olympic gymnasts and figured they had to keep quiet. Many were too young to know what he was doing was not "medical". The gymnastics association covered for him. In some cases the girls' parents told them they were lying when they tried to tell what happened.

    I have no problem with this judge.
     
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    No of course the girls didn't know better. On what planet has a male doctor been left alone with a young girl all these years?

    I heard it and couldn't believe it at first.

    I felt like the media coverage just exploited them more.

    The guy is sick and we need to find out how many more of them are out there.
     
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    Why is it a problem?
     
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    Scales of justice are supposed to be blind. Gloating doesn't seem like being blind.

    I know they all do it to a varying degree. I've never liked it before, Judge Judy being a c word to people always seemed wrong to me (I know it is for tv)

    I just don't like it in general and this is a situation where everyone roots for it because he's a monster.
     
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    This was the sentencing phase of the trial. The scales of justice were blind during his trial and he was found guilty. All too often the victim(s) of a crime are forgotten about in our criminal justice system. The judge made sure this time they were not.

    And more importantly this public sentencing phase has finally drawn attention to the organizations that hired and hide his vile crimes. USA Gymnastics has cleaned house, Michigan State University's president stepped down last night, the Karolyis and their ranch of horrors finally shut down. Hundreds of girls were sexually abused by a super predator and people who could have stopped it didn't do a damn thing.
     
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    When the judge looks this biased after the fact it makes you wonder what she was thinking during. Forgetting that, all those things you've said are awesome. Glad they all are getting what they deserve.

    Or at least some punishment. If people really did know they should be in the same prison.
     
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    Judges aren't robots. They can and I'm sure do sit and think to themself that the person in front of them is a complete d-bag and still act in a completely appropriate and fair manner.

    I'd bet almost weekly you get an asshole who brings their car for repair to the shop and you do just as quality job as you do for everyone else.
     
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    No, I've been thinking this as well, but I hadn't read anything more than the sensational stories, so I didn't want to start bashing. But I agree with...
    From what little I have seen it seems as if there's definitely a partiality for the victims by the judge. That's probably very prescient in this case, but I don't know that I want judges deciding based on emotion.

    Similar to how I may have agreed with some of the Executive Orders of Obama and Bush, but I don't love the concept that one man can just say "boop, it's done. Signature. #dropthepen" to something that the rest of government (or populace) doesn't want.
     
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    Again, this was the sentencing phase of the trial. He was found guilty. Once that happens there should be a partiality for the victims.
     
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    Yes, it does seem out of place. Jesus teaches, vengeance belongs to god and he will repay. I am sure there is wisdom in that system.
    It brings to mind the discussion we all had last week or so, about the function of our justice/prison system. While it seems more than fair today
    to sentence this dirt bag to extraordinary long and hash prison time, while we praise the judge for this vengeance he is pleased to judge appropriate.

    It seems, on one hand we allow prisons to become a despicable horrible place just so that we can send dirt bags to their just rewards. But then the next day, the same judge will send the young minor offender there for purpose of readjustment or rehabilitation for a better fit in our society. But it often fails to achieve the desired effect.
     
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