Politics Hillary Clinton Chose to Shield a Top Adviser Accused of Harassment in 2008

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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    having never had a female president any woman candidate is going to do that....what's the problem with it? It's like saying Obama ran on the "black" card...sounds like middle aged white men labeling to me.
     
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    Leading from behind on probably THE #1 womens' issue?

    Do you get dizzy from all your spin?
     
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    Did you get rich boy club pussy grabbing fever? You want to talk about women's rights.....take a look at the guy who won the election and get back to me...then pretend that politicians don't use hot topic issues to campaign with...they all do it....hypocrisy is your Hillary obsession
     
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    Trump didn't play the women's card.

    Take a look at how people refuse to acknowledge who won the election and get back to me. (Sore losers)
     
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    I knew this thread was going to be #triggerred gold when I made it.
     
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    He's not a woman....at least we're led to believe that...he does use more hairspray than most women though
     
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    nah.....I'll stay focused on the topic at hand...nice try though Oz
     
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    Hairspray! Look over there, something shiny!
     
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    I don't know anybody who doesn't think he won.....I know many who don't feel like we won anything though...
     
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    It's his head Denny....it'll blind you
     
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    Look over there, something shiny!

    (you're focused on hairspray and his head?)
     
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    no...I'm focused on someone thinking Trump is ethical and keeping Hillary as a news item a year after she fell from politics in disgrace.....her work for women's rights is pretty far ahead of Trump's anti abortion lobby..and yeah....I find men who spend an hour sculpting their quaff in the morning to be absolutely ridiculous...you wanted to look for something shiny.....hence the Trump hair snark....I don't know....maybe you have the same hairdo...triggered?
     
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    Who says Trump is ethical?

    You're again distracting from the point at hand. The woman who played the woman card protected an advisor who harassed women on her own campaign (as well as her husband all along).
     
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    Like every person in the public eye who hires an advisor is supposed to know his private life....she's apologized since for being clueless....Oprah was really close to Harvey Weinstein....she's always championing women's issues....I clearly said...double standard in politics and celebrity are a given....these folks have always put their own public image and advancement ahead of the dirt on the rug...if you really hate this woman so much...you should actually do something about it....in court..you've convicted her without a trial repeatedly.
     
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    She knew and covered it up. Just like she did for her husband for years. The way she treated the brave women who came out against her husband's awful behavior isn't exactly worthy of the woman card, either.
     
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    Hillary Clinton ran on a platform. Unfortunately it got less coverage than Trump's pussy grabbing, BENGHAZI!!!!! or Bill Clinton, but it is what she ran on. I know it's real hard for some people to comprehend a woman can have a thought out political platform. I know you think she just ran on possessing a vagina. Because you know, no one here is a sexist....
     
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    Is it not an application of Occam's Razor to say that, in the popularity contest known as the Presidential election, your candidate lost?

    Ardent, aging feminists and the LGBT movement are the base of Hillary's power, and they are (if ever they weren't) fringe elements of today's society. Even the power of the minority bloc that votes (D) without regard to platforms or issues was not behind her in force. So you can say that her platform was overrun by what you consider misogyny, but in reality even people that normally gravitate toward that platform (which I'll grossly label as "big government, social safety net, erosion of 'family values'") didn't vote for her.

    It would be hypocritical to beat around the bush on my position. I, for one, cannot forgive Benghazi, because I know enough about it and because I live with repercussions of it. And not just what she (as SecState) did or didn't do. Mistakes get made, decisions go awry, good process turns out badly, whatever. But she (and the President) refused to acknowledge the mistake. They thought they could just keep snowing over the 320M serfs and continue on their way. They offered up a YouTube video, instead of their apologies for poor decision-making. And because of it, whatever "platform" she said she stood for is built on a lie. For some people it will be her lies about her email server. For some it will be her lies about Whitewater and/or Bill's shenanigans and her empowerment of them. For some it will be her insistence that the VA does good work For some it's just that she's a generally shitty person who generally treats people shittily. It doesn't matter if she wanted to do the exact same things Trump was doing, she's a proven liar while in government office and in the White House. If you (as a Democratic voter, not crandc) wanted "the Platform", Hillary didn't have to be the candidate, and likely wasn't the best choice for the nomination. But if you wanted "I'm with Her" as the First Woman President, then it had to be.
    And the fact that her platform was very similar to the one I've fundamentally disagreed with for 20 years probably doesn't help her (or your) cause. It was a losing platform for Gore, it was a losing platform for Kerry. When Obama won it (and ditched the mainstream elements of it for his Obamatopian view of it) it basically confirmed for me (I won't speak for the masses) that the party whose leadership was Obama, Pelosi and the like; passing things like ACA, the TPP attempt and the "Stimulus"; messing up one Surge in AFG and pulling out of another one in Iraq; giving Iran literally billions of cold, hard cash and releasing 5 really bad dudes to get one terrorist sympathizing deserter back to the US; placing "activist judges" on the Supreme Court--not because they have vaginas, mind you, but because they (incorrectly, as can be told by anyone who passed a civics class) say that courts are where law is made; not living up to agreements with allies or promises to the people to close GTMO and bring the troops home from the Middle East and give them adequate care for getting dinged up overseas...you're right. Instead of having to answer for the folly of the platform, it is easier to explain it away with "racist" and "misogynistic". Especially when the vocal minority of the party is teaching and promoting things like:
    I disagree fundamentally. I don't want a diverse team made up of equal amounts of smart people and stupid people. I don't want a team equally diverse in talent for the position and not-talented. I don't want a team equally mixed between lazy members and hardworking members. In my worldview, mission accomplishment is the goal, and our greatest strength is that we have a single-minded focus that the team works hard to accomplish the mission, and that we take care of our team.

    The fact that she barely beat out a Old Cisgender White Male who happens to be a vocal and committed socialist for the nomination (of the Party of Diversity!) should tell you that Hillary isn't popular because she isn't popular. She was losing by 10 points to Giuliani when he collapsed in the Senate race. She lost to Obama. She almost lost to Sanders. She lost to Trump. Maybe it's because of her vagina. Maybe it's because of what's between her ears and what comes out of her mouth. :dunno: But it wasn't because she was "running on a platform". She was running as "I'm Hillary Clinton, First Woman President, dammit!" and trying to get her feminist and LGBT base to vote her in. It barely worked against a Jewish Old White Socialist and didn't against the first viable black candidate nor the most vilified candidate (on either side) in decades.
     
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