OT Figure It Out.... It's Not That Hard If You Just Try...

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  1. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Offensive in the context that they were here before it was called America. And that to label them as American is just another slap in the face with regard to their genocide committed by Americans.
     
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    stampedehero Make Your Day, a Doobies Day Staff Member Moderator

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    I always though the Cleveland Indians logo was the most obvious racist insult.
     
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    Yes, I took this oath;

    "I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States...
     
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    Okay..going to hit the high points.

    Never said "welfare" made reference to social services. Something many reservations struggle to provide for their own people. Social services that already are lacking are education and medical services. To saddle an already stressed economic environment with additional demands is unrealistic.

    Also, the potential cultural requirements is not conducive to a positive outcome.
     
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    Man, history is nothing but one culture subjugating or incorporating another..sheesh
     
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  6. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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    It's offensive to the over 100 million Native Americans like myself who are not included.

    They are descendants of immigrants, just like every other Real American who isn't a Naturalized Citizen.

    There are 2 paths to US Citizenship.

    1. Being born in America, which makes you a Native American Citizen.

    2. Immigrating to the US and going through the relatively easy legal process to become a Naturalized American Citizen.

    Both are equally Real Americans.

    There is no 3rd path to becoming a Real American.
     
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    Playing Devil's Advocate, Only if it wasn't a Native American who originally came up with the name. Do we know who came up with the name?

    Sometimes, we have to accept the perceived unacceptable ( as long as there is no physical harm) in order for us to move on from, forget, and treat each other equal.

    With that said, what the big deal with changing the name to the Washington Corrupt
     
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    That’s what I was afraid you meant. America is the name of the continents (North and South) that is accepted worldwide. Being offended by its use is just looking to be offended IMO.
     
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    MARIS61 Real American

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    That Obama was born in Africa?

    Okay. :dunno:
     
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    MARIS61 Real American

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    HELL NO!

    That is the newest form of racism, Cultural Appropriation.
     
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    I was born here so I guess it's clear. Grandfather completed his naturalization so I guess he is on the proper side. Not quite clear about Dad though,
    he came here quite young but never completed his naturalization. Would he be an American? He was last seen loading wounded Marines for transport off Iwo Jima.
     
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    Ahem...

    The name originated as a gesture of respect for player Louis Sockalexis, and American Indian player with the club.

    The name "Indians" originated from a request by club owner Charles Somers to baseball writers to choose a new name to replace "Cleveland Naps" following the departure of Nap Lajoie after the 1914 season. The name referenced the nickname "Indians" that was applied to the Cleveland Spiders baseball club during the time when Louis Sockalexis, a Native American, played in Cleveland.[4] Common nicknames for the Indians include the "Tribe" and the "Wahoos", the latter being a reference to their logo, Chief Wahoo. Also, the team's mascot is named "Slider."
     
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    Cippy91 Habitual Line Stepper

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    This thread gave me a good laugh.
     
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    We are the National Lampoon of sports forums...
     
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    IF you were born here that isn't Native. That's a Born Citizen. A Born citizen can have naturalized parents negating the nativity.

    I was born in this country. MY grandparents migrated from Germany and Italy during world war two. How does that make me a Native American?

    This is a foolhardy argument anyhow because, as you just proved, it all depends on the definition one assumes a Native American is.


    Anyhow...
     
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    MARIS61 Real American

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    You probably won't.

    Especially if you keep "seeing" racism in everyone around you.
     
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    "White People" is a doubly racist slur, and negates any further intelligent discussion by the offender.
     
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    Wrong.

    MERRIAM WEBSTER
    Definition of native

    : belonging to a particular place by birth
    • a native New Yorker
    : belonging to or associated with one by birth
    • hailed in his native Sweden as an influential dramatist—William Peden
     
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    Again, proving my point. This definition is CLEARLY not the consensus of the public, or there would not be any issue with the heritage at all...
     
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    History has also shown humans living together with no war for hundreds of years. But hey, let's keep doing what racists do. :dunno:
     

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