DeAndre Jordan Might Be A Blazer Superthread

“It’s a law of averages baby”

 

Not if that trade is for another center. It could make it even more obvious that Collins is the PFOTF (which he should be).

 

The biggest issue I have is that Nurk is an offensive threat, and Jordan is not. With Nurk, we can play Collins away from the basket. He can spread the floor. Nurk can pass the ball. I'm just not sold on Jordan, unless Nurk is part of a trade that brings back a very good player.

If this was the trade, with a separate trade for Avery Bradley (because he can't be combined with other players), I think I could go for it.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7cxck9r

We would end up with a lineup of

Dame/Bazz
Bradley/Turner
Middleton/Aminu
Parker/Collins
Jordan/Henson

 

Why would you trade a 23 year old center for a 29 year old center(the only center we have been rumored to be interested in) who has 1 year with a player option for a second year and that’s it cause even if he picked up his option and became a fa at 30 we are not going to invest in a 30 year old at 20+ mil per, which is what he’s gonna ask for. The only reason would be the blazers are confident in Zach as a center. Jordan is basically a perfect stop gap till Zach is ready to start(at any position). I don’t want Jordan or Nurk but you don’t give up a 23 year old starting center for one with 2 more productive years if you don’t have someone coming down the pipeline. It’s not like Jordan makes us a contender or anything.

 

That team, if they could stay healthy, would win a ton of games. A very unlikely trade possibility but these are the types of deals I would look to make. The team is is too far off to just be looking to add another mediocre piece or two. We should be looking to do something big.

 

My problem with Jordan is he's played with allstar talent and never won shit....Nurk outplayed him on the road last Clippers game....6 years younger...Jordan makes Dame money.....he can't shoot anywhere outside 2 ft from the rim...and he's a terrible actor

 

thats another good point, he played with CP3 and Griffin and they were never a contender
why would it be different at POR... at this point, are Dame & CJ & DJ better than CP3 & Griffin & DJ

if you ask me, only thing DeAndre has over Nurk is his reputation around the league, bigger name... when you say Dame & CJ & DJ, it sure sound better than Dame & CJ & Nurk, but its exactly that why people would do this deal... in theory its better, in practice, its not

PEOPLE DONT LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE !!!!!!!!

 

The problem with the Clippers was health issues.

Griffin missed a ton of games.
Paul had a few seasons where he missed a ton of games.
Jordan has been consistently healthy.

I don't think it was Jordan's fault that they never lived up to their potential.

 

The bigger picture is that Dame and CJ are in their window now... they can’t wait 3 years for Nurk to be consistent

 

Yuk! Complete Gahbidge

 

and theyd still lose in the 1st round, just like with Nurk or you dont agree with me

trading talented 23 yo for soon to be 30 y0 for the same outcome, ouch... it would be the same, except less future for the POR

 

If anything Jordan has maybe been the most reliable clipper of all time. Dude has been there his whole career and developed into the premier defensive big in the NBA, very similar to Tyson Chandler but more athletic.

 

He’s not that good defensively. At least not recently.

 

Not to mention there already waiting on Collins.

 

Is that his fault or is it because his team has changed its identity completely over a summer and half a season?

 

Both?

And DeAndre has never had favorable numbers when it came to FG% allowed in the paint.

 

its his fault

 

Adding DJ + Williams doesn't put Portland in the top 3 out west.
They're still a middle of the pack team who could win or lose to anyone on any given night.
Trading for these two would be making a move, just to make a move. It wouldn't lead Portland past the second round or even give them a better chance at getting there.

 

"They can't wait", I disagree. If the team is getting better each year, and that progresses towards a finals appearance in 3 years, then they are on the right path. I'm cool with a tweak here or there, but getting DJ if it cost dealing Nurk, is foolhearty IMO. Add a new piece to the core if possible, but leave the Big 3 alone.

 

Does getting DeAndre and Williams make us a true contender... who knows. But I feel it’s ignorance to act like you know for a fact it won’t. I feel like I’ve been hearing the line “don’t make a move just to make a move” for 5 years now. At some point you have to go for it and take that chance.