<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The Celtics were already looking at bringing in a player on a 10-day contract when they had nine in uniform, but Jefferson?s injury potentially leaves the club with eight bodies. With the max 15 players under contract, the Celts need a waiver from the league to sign a short-term player. Sources said late yesterday that Kevinn Pinkney, a 6-foot-10 banger playing for Bakersfield in the NBA Developmental League, should be on his way. The Nevada product is averaging 18.7 points and 7.3 rebounds.</div>He's putting up some great numbers in the D-League, he's also averaging 1.5 steals and shooting 51% from the field in the D-League. Not a huge signing but another young guy that should be entertaining to watch.
I don't know much about him at all, but it will be nice to see another big body out there. With Pinkney, we have 9 healthy players. Is that sad or what? Will he be playing tonight, though?
come on Doc, give the call up 35 mins a night.he'll have that story for the grandkids. "Yup I helped the Boston Celtics secure the #2 draft pick in 2007"
I just read another article that states that he will be suiting up tonight. Nice <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticFan @ Apr 4 2007, 11:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>come on Doc, give the call up 35 mins a night. he'll have that story for the grandkids. "Yup I helped the Boston Celtics secure the #2 draft pick in 2007" </div> Do you HAVE to talk about the #2 draft pick in every single post you make?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I don't know much about him at all</div>He's like a poor man's Kevin Durant...sorta. He can score, make steals, rebound, he's lanky and versatile for a 6'10'' forward. He should have stayed in college, he left as a sophomore and clearly could have used more maturation with two more years in school. He's out of Nevada.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Apr 4 2007, 11:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I just read another article that states that he will be suiting up tonight. NiceDo you HAVE to talk about the #2 draft pick in every single post you make?</div>nope, every 2nd or 3rd. I also have to talk about the great year #7 is having.I think Jefferson will be on the same level as Dwight Howard next year with a better post game.if there is anything else worth mentioning this time of year, feel free to let me know :winkglasses:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticFan @ Apr 4 2007, 12:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>nope, every 2nd or 3rd. I also have to talk about the great year #7 is having.I think Jefferson will be on the same level as Dwight Howard next year with a better post game.if there is anything else worth mentioning this time of year, feel free to let me know :winkglasses:</div>Ummm....no. Al Jefferson will never ever be as good as Dwight Howard. Al Jefferson will be good, I believe that, but nowhere near the level of Dwight.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Ummm....no. Al Jefferson will never ever be as good as Dwight Howard. Al Jefferson will be good, I believe that, but nowhere near the level of Dwight.</div>Nowhere near the level? Are you serious? If Jefferson was given the minutes at the beginning of the season he'd be averaging the exact same numbers as Dwight. Howards averaging 17, 12, and 2 blocks Al J is avering 15, 11, and a 1.5 blocks. The difference between the two is AL J missed games because of an apendix problem and he wasn't getting a lot of minutes at the beginning of the season. Jefferson and Howard will be similar players next year, I guarantee that. Just because Howard might be more ripped doesn't mean he's better than Al J. Al J definately has a better post-game than Howard does.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE @ Apr 7 2007, 11:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Nowhere near the level? Are you serious? If Jefferson was given the minutes at the beginning of the season he'd be averaging the exact same numbers as Dwight. Howards averaging 17, 12, and 2 blocks Al J is avering 15, 11, and a 1.5 blocks. The difference between the two is AL J missed games because of an apendix problem and he wasn't getting a lot of minutes at the beginning of the season. Jefferson and Howard will be similar players next year, I guarantee that. Just because Howard might be more ripped doesn't mean he's better than Al J. Al J definately has a better post-game than Howard does.</div>There were about 50 "ifs" and excuses in that.Get real. Judge be what they've done, not by what they could do.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Legacy @ Apr 8 2007, 12:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>There were about 50 "ifs" and excuses in that. Get real. Judge be what they've done, not by what they could do.</div> You're right, we should. Therefore, let's put down Big Al's numbers as a starter: 16.8 ppg, 11.6 rpg, 1.6 bpg (57 games) Now, now that we've got the numbers out of the way, Al Jefferson's offensive game is WAY ahead of Dwight Howard's. Dwight's defense, track & field stats, and strength are way ahead of Jefferson. The rebounding is very close. It's tough to say, because whatever the other can't do, the other can. Dwight's offensive game is very limited right now, he gets a great deal of his buckets based on strength/athleticism alone. Big Al's post game is very advanced. Saying that Al Jefferson isn't anywhere near Dwight Howard is ridiculous.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>There were about 50 "ifs" and excuses in that.Get real. Judge be what they've done, not by what they could do.</div>Haha "get real". Wait till next year buddy, you apperantly haven't been watching Jefferson. The guy has been an absolute monster despite the Celtics losing. Look at the numbers, Jefferson is avering 2 numbers less than Howard in points and boards and it's only because Jefferson was playing like 15 minutes a game at the beginning of the year. Next year they will be the exact same player. Guarnanteed.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Apr 8 2007, 12:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You're right, we should. Therefore, let's put down Big Al's numbers as a starter:16.8 ppg, 11.6 rpg, 1.6 bpg (57 games)Now, now that we've got the numbers out of the way, Al Jefferson's offensive game is WAY ahead of Dwight Howard's. Dwight's defense, track & field stats, and strength are way ahead of Jefferson. The rebounding is very close. It's tough to say, because whatever the other can't do, the other can. Dwight's offensive game is very limited right now, he gets a great deal of his buckets based on strength/athleticism alone. Big Al's post game is very advanced.Saying that Al Jefferson isn't anywhere near Dwight Howard is ridiculous.</div>You guys act like I don't relize how good Jefferson is. I do.But Dwight Howard is much more advanced. Jefferson will be good next year.But Dwight will be better. And you guys are seriously shooting down Dwight's offensive ability. He can score in the post without his athletic ability. He gets very limited touches though because his coach doesn't run play for him and the Magic are mostly a shoot first oriented team at every posistion. Dwight is better at every aspect of the game than Jefferson except for maybe passing. It's true.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Legacy @ Apr 8 2007, 12:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You guys act like I don't relize how good Jefferson is. I do. But Dwight Howard is much more advanced. Jefferson will be good next year.But Dwight will be better. And you guys are seriously shooting down Dwight's offensive ability. He can score in the post without his athletic ability. He gets very limited touches though because his coach doesn't run play for him and the Magic are mostly a shoot first oriented team at every posistion. Dwight is better at every aspect of the game than Jefferson except for maybe passing. It's true.</div> You're honestly saying Dwight has a better low-post offensive game than Al Jefferson? That is a complete joke. April Fools was on Monday, you're a little late.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Apr 8 2007, 12:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You're honestly saying Dwight has a better low-post offensive game than Al Jefferson? That is a complete joke. April Fools was on Monday, you're a little late.</div>Dwight is better than Jefferson in the post. I said that. And don't start calling me an idiot because I know it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Legacy @ Apr 8 2007, 12:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Dwight is better than Jefferson in the post. I said that. And don't start calling me an idiot because I know it.</div> It's not the truth though. Al Jefferson's post game is FAR more advanced than Dwight's, it's not even close. Any Magic fan will probably tell you that too. It's just the truth. I don't think you've watched enough Celtic basketball if you don't think that. Where's valo when you need him? I'm sure he'd say Al's low post offensive game is definitely better than Dwight's. Al has the total package down there. He has one of the best hook's in the league, he has an incredibly soft touch, he is very quick, his face-up game is outstanding, he has all the fakes. Not many people can stop Big Al 1-on-1 at all, Tim Duncan himself has even said that. The majority of Dwight's points are either dunks, put-backs, or assisted buckets. Big Al doesn't need any of that, just put a defender in front of him and let him go to work. Dwight doesn't have "it" down there (yet, anyway). Al Jefferson's post game is far and beyond what Dwight's is. THAT, my friend, is not even close.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Apr 8 2007, 01:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It's not the truth though. Al Jefferson's post game is FAR more advanced than Dwight's, it's not even close. Any Magic fan will probably tell you that too. It's just the truth. I don't think you've watched enough Celtic basketball if you don't think that.Where's valo when you need him? I'm sure he'd say Al's low post offensive game is definitely better than Dwight's. Al has the total package down there. He has one of the best hook's in the league, he has an incredibly soft touch, he is very quick, his face-up game is outstanding, he has all the fakes. Not many people can stop Big Al 1-on-1 at all, Tim Duncan himself has even said that. The majority of Dwight's points are either dunks, put-backs, or assisted buckets. Big Al doesn't need any of that, just put a defender in front of him and let him go to work. Dwight doesn't have "it" down there (yet, anyway). Al Jefferson's post game is far and beyond what Dwight's is. THAT, my friend, is not even close.</div>Oh, so dunks and layups don't count as post scoring? Since Dwight Howard can do that any time he wants he should. So because Al shoots more hooks than dunks he's a better scorer? There are plenty of ways to score. And Dwight can score dunking and putting back so why wouldn't he? There's no reason for him to shoot a fadeaways turnaround when he can dunk.
He still doesn't have nearly as good moves in the post as JeffersonThe thing is Dwight only gets his points on dunks..while Al gets his points off hooks, dunks and jump shotsDwight is way too passive on offense and I think his game against Minnesota explained his whole gameHe's an excellent defender and rebounder (8 points, 19 rebounds on 3-5 shooting)but come on this guy doesn't have enough of a low post game to be better than Jefferson at that aspectthey're about neck and neck right now IMO with Howard being the better defender and Jefferson the better offensive player
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Legacy @ Apr 8 2007, 10:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Oh, so dunks and layups don't count as post scoring? Since Dwight Howard can do that any time he wants he should. So because Al shoots more hooks than dunks he's a better scorer? There are plenty of ways to score. And Dwight can score dunking and putting back so why wouldn't he? There's no reason for him to shoot a fadeaways turnaround when he can dunk.</div>Do you realize how much easier it is to stop a guy from getting to the rim and dunking it or laying it in than stopping a guy with great post moves like Al Jefferson?Howard will have tougher times with bigger, athletic, and better defenders, while Al will still be throwin sh*t down going for 20/10 because of his post moves. Al's versatility alone shoots him up that high. You've probably never watched him so don't knock him. His 15 footer has gotten pretty consistent and he's been stroking it. He's got a great first step and upfake, and if he takes you into the middle for one of his signature one handed floaters you're done. When Howard gets the ball in the post I'm never really that afraid of what he's going to do because of how one dimensional he is on the offensive end. Al can score in SO MANY MORE ways than Howard can which is what makes him the more dangerous offensive player.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Legacy @ Apr 8 2007, 09:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Oh, so dunks and layups don't count as post scoring? Since Dwight Howard can do that any time he wants he should. So because Al shoots more hooks than dunks he's a better scorer? There are plenty of ways to score. And Dwight can score dunking and putting back so why wouldn't he? There's no reason for him to shoot a fadeaways turnaround when he can dunk.</div> I never said dunks/layups didn't count as post scoring, but you clearly don't understand: Al Jefferson's post game is so much more advanced. Howard's 1-on-1 post moves are very limited, he gets by down there on strength and athleticism alone. Al Jefferson has the natural gift and he just really can't be stopped 1-on-1 on the block, because of the skills he has. Dwight doesn't have it. You don't agree, whatever. But it completely baffles me that you don't even UNDERSTAND what I am saying.
I don't know why you guys act like Jefferson is a better scorer because he has more post moves. To me it's pretty obvious Howard is the better scorer. I don't care how they put the ball in the basket - it's all about the effectiveness. And Howard is effective with his own style and Jefferson is effective with his own style. But Howard scores more points than Jefferson so he's the better scorer regardless of how he puts the ball in the basket.
