posted today. The bullet points - Team has backed off Jordan, and wasn’t aggressive to begin with. Woj later mentioned that the Clippers would rather let Jordan walk for nothing than take back bad contracts, even if a pick were involved, so that’d eliminate Portland anyway. - Team is vehemently against taking calls on CJ/Dame. - Harkless could be moved. Sacramento showed interest in the past. - Woj thinks Portland might be active. Trying to figure out how to add that third piece. - Team loves Collins. A building block. Will not be put in any deal.
Here's my paraphrasing: http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/official-2018-trade-deadline-thread.326243/page-9#post-4360167
Regarding that Sacramento blurb; Vince Carter for Harkless? Saves us $2m. Maybe we con them into adding Malachi too
If CJ is to be moved, the team has to be getting better in return. Most of the hypothetical trades I've seen undervalue CJ. Example. Fringe all-star + pick for CJ is a scam. Especially if the pick lands outside the #1 pick.
I listened as well. Seems like they don’t want to break up that back court. Wants a 3rd option by using picks and players to get. Seems the untouchables are dame, cj, collins. Woj also made it sound like the blazers have every intention to resign nurk this off season
Well, of course 1 player + a pick isn't enough value. That's called logic. Neil needs to at least probe the trades, not downright reject talks for it. All I'm sayin.
Also, Zach brought up a hypothetical of Kevin love for cj and woj thinks cj has way more value than that within the league
Interesting commentary regarding CJ's value around the league. I know I and a lot of other folks in here have presumed that the Blazers probably value CJ more highly than other teams do, that the return for him wouldn't be as impressive as we'd want. The idea that those levels are closer than we thought, suggests one of two things: We (fans) really shouldn't want trade him, because he's actually worth more than we realize; or We should even more strongly want to trade him, because we'll be able to get even more back for him than we thought. I'd love to hear some more detail from Woj/Lowe about what kinds of returns other teams might theoretically be offering for CJ, or which teams would be most interested in him. If Love+BRK pick is below CJ's value even from other teams' perspective, where does it really lie?
I’ve said it before but Aminu should be shopped. With Collins’ development I really don’t see us re-signing Aminu after next season, so might as well sell high. Cleveland would probably love to have both Aminu and Napier. Maybe they’d give up their own pick and then we package the two picks for a starting wing.
Although CJ isn't on the tier of AD/Leonard/LBJ/KD/Giannias in ability to lead a franchise. It's very likely he's viewed around the league as a #1 option who could lead a franchise and be the face of the franchise.
The problem with that is CLE needs to send back enough salary to match. Frye is an expiring, but with Love out, they have taken Frye off the market. That leaves a year and a half of Iman Shumpert at $10+ million a year. No thanks! BNM
I think teams realize that CJ is worth more (and will likely produce more) to a team that needs a #1 scorer.
