So who just played their last game as a Blazer?
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illmatic99
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When did ET hurt his calf?
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Hopefully a guy that didn’t play.
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Must have been before he signed that massive contract cause he has been garbage since.
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I saw him with an ice pack on it during the game yesterday. I think he was questionable coming into that game so probably sometime before.
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Murder on the Blazer Express.
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Blaze the TrailCat needs to go!
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THIS!
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Based on this game...... I would hope for some guys that did play.
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Well the next game is after the deadlane so at least it wont be a distraction then, and maybe the Blazers can get back to winning.
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youd love that, wouldnt you
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Just being realistic.
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every, you say lol
Nikolokolus
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The summer of '16 hangover.
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When he first signed his contract. He was jumping up and down so hard from surprise at the size of the contract he strained it.
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If they don't make a trade Dame us gunna be really pissed. Just sayin.
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Well, they could show him Zach Lowe's trade deadline preview (where he discusses how expiring contracts don't hold much sway this year--yay! keeping Ed!--and that you probably can't even dump anyone except Mo even with attaching a pick)...and The Blazers Draft history (key attention paid from 2012 onward)
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I don't think the next 2.5 days are going to make or break Dame's belief in the franchise... As has already been said many times, most teams are only selling, and since Dame, CJ and Collins are off the market, the odds of us making a move of any significance seems pretty small. I'm really not sure what some of you expect the GM to do in this situation (that he created). Like some magical trade is going to fall from the sky and solve all our problems midway through the season.
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5th road game in 7 nights. I don't think it's any deeper than that.
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You should get into comedy
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That talk with Paul Allen was a marker. "From this day forward" type of thing. You improve the team or else. He can say otherwise but he's playing day in and day out.... Why is he working this hard on a team that gives him a three year "IOU" on benificial trades? It isn't fair to Dame for us to say, you hold out the fort because we fucked up. Even if you can add somebody minor for the playoffs.... You do it. It sends a message in the locker room and to the star players.
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It sends a message that the guys on the team can't pull it off, but some outsider can? Giving up draft picks and useful players for someone to clean up a mistake? Put another way, what would Dame think if we'd given up Patty C and Zach and Ed to get rid of Crabbe's contract? How competitive would our team be then?
Players have said multiple times (both the traded-for and the team they come to) that it's super-disruptive to go through a midseason trade. Sure, if we were giving up half our team for Kawhi or something it may be worth it. Hell, the Thunder still aren't gelling with Melo and PG added to RW, and they're 2/3 of the way into the season. Why would you want to remove chemistry and change up lives for "someone minor"?
Out of curiosity, who is the last player traded for midseason, that we gave up a 1st for, who was worth it? I'll even help out with a list:
1) Afflalo and Gee for Barton, TRob, Claver and a 1st. (2015)
2) Crash for a 2011 and 2013 1st, Cunningham, Marks, Przybilla (big win b/c we turned Crash into Dame in 1 year, but hurt our draft classes) (2011)
Vice, when we had space:
1) Getting a 2021 pick for Brian Roberts' absorption (meh, but ok)
2) Getting CLE's pick (that became Swanigan) for Varejao's absorption (good deal, though tempered by having a 1.9M cap hit for the entirety of Dame's/CJ's contract)
3) Eric Maynor for a TPE (meh, but serviceable backup for a bit)
Vice, when we were sellers:
1) Plumlee for Nurk and a 1st (good deal, even if it's just for 1 more year of a cheap, serviceable center and a pick that allowed us to move up to target Zach).
2) Camby for Jonny Flynn, Hasheem Thabeet, a conditional 2012 2nd round pick (MIN own) and a TPE. (2012) (lots of meh here)
3) Crash for Okur, Williams and 1st that became Dame (big win)
What about big-time buyers throughout recent NBA history?
MIL 2003: Trading prime Ray Allen and a 1st for Gary Payton. Fail.
DET 2004: Lots of role players and a 1st for Sheed. Big win.
LAL 2008: Trading 2 1sts, salary space and the rights to M. Gasol (who hadn't come to NBA yet) for Pau. Win-win, as LAL went to 3 Finals in a row and kept K*be happy, and MEM got Gasol. Of note, if M. Gasol didn't unprecedentedly blow up into a star, this would've been a colossal fail for MEM as Greivis Vasquez and Done Greene, the 2 late 1sts they got, didn't make anyone forget Pau.)
LAC 2011: Paying an unprotected 1st to get Mo Williams and to get rid of Baron Davis' contract. Mo left quickly, and the pick became #1 (Kyrie). (Neil Olshey special):
Mo started 23 games for the Clips. Kyrie is Kyrie.Clippers general manager Neil Olshey said:
NYK 2012: Melo-drama I. Lots of players and picks, and I'm sure that NYK will say they did well with it, but I keep wondering how many of those young players they regretted giving up, to never go past the 2nd round?
BOS 2015: Trading a 1st and Marcus Thornton for Isaiah Thomas. Seemed to work out OK for BOS, and PHX used it (Skal Labissiere) to move up from 13 to 8 and draft Marquis Chriss.
Sellers usually do ok (we've done quite well). Taking up space is meh, but brings in some assets. Being buyers, we have overpaid. If we didn't have Billy King around to give us Dame for Crash, both of those "buy" deals look pretty horrendous, as does NO's buy of Mo Williams in 2011.
tl;dr, don't be buyers for the sake of being buyers. Don't attach draft capital to get rid of bad players.
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