OT Florida School Shooting

Not neccessary. Subdue him call the cops

 

From the left.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-mclaughlin-parkland-shooting-20180215-story.html

Every solution to mass shootings inevitably involves a serious trade-off
ByDan McLaughlin

What can we do? What should we do?

The answers are not easy, and they inevitably involve a trade-off: accepting the unacceptable, or restricting our freedoms. The three big ones are freedom of the press (publicity gives oxygen to these kinds of acts, so restricting coverage will reduce copycats); the right to bear arms (guns don't cause human evil, but of course they make it easier to carry out); and due process (targeting potential mass shooters, or mentally ill people in general, is possible, but requires us to curtail Americans' civil rights before they have actually committed a crime).

It is by no means clear that any of these solutions would be more effective than the others, and each of them involves punishing a very large number of people in order to stop the evil-doings of a very small number of people.

The knee-jerk reaction is to go after firearms, but there's a bait-and-switch element to gun-control arguments in these situations. Activists focus on small restrictions that are palatable to many. If anyone points out that small restrictions won't do much to stop shootings, the activists argue that larger restrictions, unpalatable to many, would do the trick.

Gun owners are used to hearing, almost in the same breath, "we'll stop shootings by banning all guns" and "nobody's trying to take your guns away."

 

Homicide is one person killing another. Suicide is a person killing themselves. The difference matters.

 

If two or more guys come at me with pistols or knives, the AR-15 would sure be handy.

 

Homicides is what matters. You take away the guns and homicides don't change. What does that tell you?

YOU can't be that dense. Seriously.

Hint: they still kill at the same number, they still commit suicide even more, and they simply find another tool to accomplish their terrible deeds.

 

LA Times is a left leaning paper, including the editorials they publish.

You have no answers for what he wrote. Clearly.

 

Laughable. Make the claim and don't support it.

Without banning guns or more gun control.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/04/what-caused-the-crime-decline/477408/

What Caused the Great Crime Decline in the U.S.?
After decades of soaring levels of homicides and drug violence, the country’s crime rate plunged dramatically over the last 25 years. What happened?

...

By decade’s end, the homicide rate plunged 42 percent nationwide. Violent crime decreased by one-third. What turned into a precipitous decline started later in some areas and took longer in others. But it happened everywhere: in each region of the country, in cities large and small, in rural and urban areas alike. In the Northeast, which reaped the largest benefits, the homicide rate was halved. Murders plummeted by 75 percent in New York City alone as the city entered the new millennium.

The trend kept ticking downward from there, more slowly and with some fluctuations, to the present day. By virtually any metric, Americans now live in one of the least violent times in the nation’s history.

But the forces that drove the Great American Crime Decline remain a mystery. Theories abound among sociologists, economists, and political scientists about the causes, with some hypotheses stronger than others. But there’s no real consensus among scholars about what caused one of the largest social shifts in modern American history.