Notice Time to change your legislation regarding carrying weapons

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  1. Cippy91

    Cippy91 Habitual Line Stepper

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    You know what grinds my gears? When people who aren’t from this country start saying what the people of this country should do. Especially people from UK, they are the worst. However you’re from Israel, a very flawed place in itself speaking on an issue you know little to nothing about. Classic
     
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    So write your amendment so that it only strips the rights from the evil doer, not those that should retain their right to protect themselves.
    Remember, the police are not here to protect all citizens. Only the individual citizen has that responsibility.
     
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    Gun free zones, or any one thing isn’t going to fix the problem. In fact, all the proposed solutions won’t fix the problem. The problem is deep and extremely complex.

    However, each proposed solution may play a role in lessening gun violence and especially mass attacks. But if we make certain restrictions we could dampen the epidemic. Keep mentally ill from purchasing, require gun safes/cabinets if one owns guns (hopefully more would be locked up and not easily taken by kids), close the loopholes that permit unchecked sales, require background checks, limit magazine capacity, ban certain accessories like bump stocks, require some safety training to own firearms, start tracking firearms so we can catch criminals who sell on the black market. Perhaps all of these won’t help, but we need to start doing some of them. Otherwise, what’s in the future? Deaths that build up until eventually the only pressure release is amending the 2nd so severe restrictions can be installed like in Australia. I’m not for that, you aren’t for that, but the more we kick the can the more likely the next generation will feel compelled to go to extremes.
     
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  4. Chris Craig

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    If someone is mentally ill that doesn't mean they have a low IQ. To own a fire arm one must be responsible for it. They must know how to use it and store it responsibly. Someone who is not of right mind should not have a fire are. What if your neighbor was some mentally ill person. Would you want them owning a gun? Would you feel safe knowing they were next door and could at any moment walk over and starting shooting you with it?
     
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    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I think we should take every concievable step towards ending this epidemic. There are more and more shootings every year. Its only going to get worse.

    Mentally ill people should have guns

    Parents need to be held responsible for their kids actions with their firearms

    Armed security guards

    Metal detectors maybe

    We need to take steps

    We keep saying "no more" "this is it" "this will not happen again" its time to do something about it. Put, everything on the table. Put partisan bullshit aside and get it done. Our childrens lives depend on it. Our future depends on it.
     
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  6. riverman

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    bs.....my wife is a citizen of the united states....she's not from this country...she has as much right to her voice and opinion as anybody else here
     
  7. Chris Craig

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    Why? The things they are doing in other countries are working. They have working solutions. We should listen.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    So what's your plan, Stan?

    barfo
     
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    I get that--although I think "every conceivable step" is a bit too far, because many conceivable steps would be overreaches.

    But still, you didn't answer the question of the "how" to accomplish the "what" in regard to "Mentally ill people should not have guns". At what point, in what manner, and to what degree should mental health be examined in regard to gun ownership? I'm not at all being argumentative, because I don't disagree with the basic concept; I'm legitimately asking how you think the goal should be achieved.
     
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    Well *edited*, you respond as if you had an IQ of 50. Would that make you mentally responsible?
     
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    MIT does the trick, hey? Ha! You would hate what I could tell you. So I won't.
     
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    If it is not in the distributed talking points, I do not think we are going to hear it here.
     
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    Makes the gaza strip a safer place im sure.
     
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    Lettuce didn't walk into a school and murder 17 people. The NRA is a scapegoat for anti gun people to attack. Most gun owners could give two shits about the NRA. If the NRA disappeared tomorrow what would it change? Would people start handing in their guns? Fuck no. Go ahead and get rid of the NRA, less junk in my mailbox, people will still vote the same.
     
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    It would change things yes. Politicians who are in the pocket of the NRA could *try* to take some steps to help the issue. But with NRA money half our politicians are scared shitless little bitches.
     
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    I really don't think the NRA is as powerful as you think it is, in the grand scheme of things. Why don't openly liberal tycoons like Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos and Mark Zuckerberg, who posess infinitely more wealth than the NRA, team up and 'out-lobby' the lobbyists? Because half of the country votes to own guns at the end of the day, so it wouldn't matter.
     
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    I hear what you’re saying but why then does the NRA give millions of dollars to politicians if it doesn’t matter? Obviously they are “buying” something.
     
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    It’s because the NRA are deeply in bed with Republicans. It’s typical right wing shit. The NRA isn’t the issue in all this though. Unfortunately these kind of threads go no where, just in circles
     

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