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  1. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    On a 737 on Southwest my whole head is above the seat. I drove a newer Miata once on a test drive and had to have the top down and look over the windshield to see. Have short and wide hands. They're still almost an inch longer from palm to tip than Trump's and I wear 15 wide shoes.

    It used to be I'd laugh at one size fits all. Now they say most. I'm not most.
     
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    Geez! I remember this.
     
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    Funny, my son wears 15s. Grandson is only 11 this January, already with the 13s.

    Hey you know, they got me stuffed into the back seat of and F7 for transport to another carrier once. Reasons for that are another long story.
    But that was frightening. The take off not so bad, the coming down on that little friggin spot in the ocean is indeed fearful. Shit, I had just picked the little dipshit in the front seat out of the ocean but days before. Hell I had no confidence he knew what the fuck he was doing.
    See how lucky you are to be too dang big to do all this shit!!
     
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    Sargent Preston. Then there was Preston Foster. Dang near looked like Sargent Preston, very confusing.

    But no worries about Yukon King though.
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    My little buddy Elme was a joker. He didn't care if you joked about him because he joked about everyone else. My favorite Elme joke that I made up was this. How did Elme's parents keep him from stealing the car when he was in highschool?



    They put the keys on the center of the coffee table.
     
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    Where is dviss?
    Got to be something racist going down here!
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    You're right. I only said that because Elme is ColOmbian. My favorite impression of Elme was me carrying a large commercial roll of paper towels to put in the bathroom. I'd tell people it was my impression of Elme carrying a roll of toilet paper.
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    Elme and Iffy were the two who didn't have correct legal papers to work. Iffy had told me he was here for the Reagan amnesty. I couldn't believe he got let go. Apparently he had tried to sneak someone across the border in 1994 (I think) and had a 20 year ban put on his visa. This is all second hand info of course. I'm not truly certain of any of it.
     
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    Absolutely, the children are wrong! You nailed it!!!
    The little buggers should not be marching into those Killing Zones! When will they learn better? They must! The adults are too friggin stubborn to remove the Killing Zones.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I just can't wrap my head around people who think that banning guns will solve the problem. And that's what we're talking about. Solving the problem.

    This is like people blaming Tide for making their pods look like candy. I'm sorry but teenagers aren't eating Tide pods because they look like candy. They're eating Tide pods because they're A) morons and B) giving in to social pressure to be cool.

    School shootings are a cultural problem. Something is wrong with these kids. Guns have been around for hundreds of years. Guns haven't changed much in the past 80+ years. Whether you believe it's desensitizing kids to violence through video games/television, or the internet/social media, or anti-depressants and ritalin, or maybe just a combination of all of those things.... something has changed starting in the 90s. It's probably a mixture of factors.

    1. Single income families are becoming a thing of the past. I grew up with a stay-at-home mom. The kids that I knew in school who acted out the most were latch key kids. These days it's becoming harder and harder for families to get by with only one income, which means both parents are working and kids are being left alone for longer periods of time.

    2. Prescription drugs like Ritalin and anti-depressants have been mass produced starting in the early 90s, which coincides with the rise in school shootings.

    3. Video games have become more and more realistic, which has to have some kind of effect on people. The way that people treat each other in video games is extremely disheartening. Log into any of the popular games and you will see kids telling each other to kill themselves or calling them autistic or worse.

    4. The internet has exposed people to things that were never available before. You can go online and watch videos of people dying. Our children are exposed to unfiltered ideas through the web. Cyber bullying and social pressure is at an all time high. Stupid fads like the cinnamon challenge and the tide pod challenge are perfect examples of the stupid and dangerous things that children are exposed to.

    Children today are dealing with things that no child has had to deal with, and we're seeing behavior manifest in ways that would have been extremely uncommon in the past. Any kind of fix will take a lot of time.
     
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    Spot on. Starting in the 90s.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    The population has grown consistently. The population in the US was 132M in 1940 (80 years ago), it's over 325M today. The incidence of these shootings may not be any different, but there are bound to be more of them even if the rate is the same.

    The media has glorified the killers. We all know Lee Harvey Oswald's name, or Richard Speck's, or John Wayne Gacy's. Some news outlets have taken to not glorifying the killers by mentioning their names. That might work, might not.

    BTW, Speck is a serial killer who preyed upon nurses and nursing students (murdered 8 nursing students). He didn't use a gun. Gacy murdered at least 33 teen age boys. He didn't use a gun.

    Of course, there was the Boston Strangler, who murdered 13 women in the 1960s. Didn't use a gun.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Stopping it probably isn't possible. We just need to redirect the energy, it's a bit of a fad to shoot up schools now. We need to allow the kids to get their rage out, and at the same time do something positive for society.

    So what we need to do is to make it cool to shoot up nursing homes instead.

    barfo
     
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    Small problem there. They have not been designated as a Killing Zone. You just don't know what you might run into.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Seriously though, do you think kids have changed and this is a cultural issue or do you think it's primarily a gun issue and the problem was always there?
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I think it's a fad. Guns don't make it inevitable, but guns enable it - if there weren't guns, I'm pretty sure we wouldn't have a rash of mass school stabbings. Too much work. Same for school bombings, school stranglings, school poisonings, etc.

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    You do not truly expect to have a meaningful conversation with the master of snark, do you?

    The points you raise are valid. Of course there has been a cultural shift.

    We went from two parent house holds with stay at home moms, to dual income latch key kids. Then the oft celebrated single parent homes provided even less guidance. No longer are parents expected to raise their children, they feel some how that it is the schools that should do so.

    So the nanny state has become in vogue. They say what meds you should put your offspring on, to make them more pliable. They say how much or how little your kids should know and what they should even be taught.

    Parents have given away and denied their own responsibility. They and the system has allowed the child to not be responsibly, and to look for reasons to blame their own failings.

    And now we have come to this cross roads, and it is impossible for the people that created the problem to take credit and blame.

    It is the system. It is the parents. It is what society allows as normal. The true fix is to take a step back and evaluate how we got here, and make a course correction. Short of that, make the schools so secure that these waste on human spare parts will have to find another target. Apply another bandage on a broken leg.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Master of Snark. I like that!

    barfo, Master of Snark
     
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    Well, you know bud, I have to give credit where credit is due. Far and away above your garden variety troll. (See SlowPokeyDog.)
     
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