Politics Trump’s support for background check bill shows gun politics ‘shifting rapidly’

I'm saying once they are released from prison, having served their time, they are not felons, they are ex-felons.

I support their freedoms just as I support yours.

 

Fuck Trump. Interest in guns is a mental illness.

The OT Forum is a hotbed for authoritarian fascism, so yeah.

 

It’s not the heat that’s the problem it’s whats being cooked. Smells like my mother in laws cooking.

 

hands are used for other things than damage. The purpose of guns is to shoot things. not equal. Guns aren't alive. Not equal. Guns aren't attached to people. Not equal. Guns aren't used to masterbate (well, except for by real gun nuts).

As far as No Gun has killed... between 2005 and 2010, 3800 people in the US died from accidental gunshots. Bad people kill, crazy people kill, suicidal people kill. depressed people kill. People hooked on drugs kill. And a bucket load of those use guns. Guns need regulation. Keep them from the Evil folks, the loaded folks, the crazy folks, the unstable folks.

"Have the stones to put the blame where it belongs." Congress and the N fucking RA. Money in politics. Those who cling to their guns over the lives of kids. THat's where blame lies.

 

BS - I have bought several guns via armslist over the years without background checks. And those sales were legal. As long as you have no reason to believe someone is not permitted to own a firearm you can sell it to them without a background check.

 

I guess it should depend upon the conditions that they get out on, but yeah I think felons should be able to get guns after like 2 years of an adjustment period after they get out.

One of my friends just hit his 10 year mark from being a felon this year. He’s really excited to get a gun.

 

I have the documents right here

 

See it goes both ways.
When someone posts a video showing them destroying their gun.
(Not because they hate guns, not because they're scared of guns. I imagine the guy who destroyed his AR is very pro-gun.)
But simply because he didn't want it on his conscious that his gun, if sold or when he passes. Would end up in the hands of a non-responsible gun owner and the barrel could end up pointing at someone.
People call him a cuck. They say he's ignorant, misinformed and should've just sold it if he doesn't want it.
They don't want to have a conversation, they want to be the loudest in the room in hopes it will rile up the other side.
People like this, on either side are just not worth the time and effort. It's one of the reasons why I responded to you, and ignored others... Because you're generally not that guy.

Spoiler

I vaguely know who Rachael Ray is, the name at least sounds familiar.
I know who Paris Hilton is because when I was 12 I had a giant crush on her.
But I have no idea who she is now, nor do I really even want to see a 30 something crack whore.
(My gf is plenty for me.)
I don't know who any of the other people are you listed.
There is nothing any celeb, or news caster could say who could get me to change my vote for x.
Whenever either side shows x celeb I always laugh my ass off, they really think celebrities can sway independent voters.

The issue here is how do we stop mass shootings in schools.
Apparently the answer is not banning x gun.
The answer is not having (grand)parents roam the halls with guns to protect their (grand)children.
As someone whos around kids every day, I will tell you. The answer is not having children who become emotional at the drop of a hat able to bring guns to schools protect themselves.(Parents be like, oh my kids not emotional. Yes, yes they are. You're in denial)
Is the answer turning schools into a prison with security at every door, in every class? What if the shooter just shoots the security at the door, or is let in by a friend?

My aunt has been a teacher for shit... 30 years, damn just realized how old she is... My cousin's wife is a teacher.
They know how to shoot. My uncle has a huge case of guns he's legally bought. He keeps under lock and key. My cousin has guns as well.
I've had conversations and got their opinion on if they would like to be armed as teachers to protect school children.
They have two reasons which give them pause.
1. What if a kid goes for your weapon,(because you can't touch kids as an adult in school) and in the worse case. What if the child actually gets a hold of said weapon?
2. How do the authorities tell a teacher trying to protect their school apart from an active shooter?

Spoiler

I own a handgun, it used to be kept 24/7 in a lock box which I kept in my truck.
I take it out every day when I go to an elementary school to be around children.
I never would want to be armed at school, due to the 'what if'
Anyone whos seen me in person or in picture/video knows I'm not a small guy and don't get overpowered easily. Still would never want to take the risk.

I'm not anti-gun, I'm not pro-gun.
I'm pro-children. I want to stop the shootings going on in schools.
However I will immediately dismiss you if you're trying to be divisive, or draw political lines.
I don't care if you're a democrat, a republican, or wtfever you identify as.

Evil people will figure out a way to do harm no matter what.
But we as individuals are at fault if we don't do everything in our power to prevent it.
Right now, we as individuals & a society must figure out how to stop children from getting shot in school.

Japan gathered up all samari??? swords as a condition of their surrender in ww2.
It can be done.

 

Good point.
Though this is one major difference.
Illegal growers don't register their plants before they purchase them.