Religion Trump and guns

Honestly I don't care about the CC across state lines. I would like a higher bar for people to conceal carry, more training, but if someone puts in the effort for safety and ability and follows the laws, CC doesn't bother me. '

I do think raising the age limit is an excellent idea and I also want background checks on all purchases and a national database.

Additionally I would like magazine restrictions, requirements of gun safes/cabinets for all firearms, Much greater restrictions regarding those who have criminal past, abuse charges, documented mental instability... from purchasing.

At that point, I would shut up.

 

I think stripping a 20 year old woman of her god given right to protect herself with arms if necessary, is the damnedest dumbest thing we could do.
It would be the first time in the history of this country we were ever so thoughtless.

 

the first? How bout slavery to name just one.

 

It also seems very convoluted that a person is deemed to be mature enough to vote but still you deny them the right to defend themselves.
Wtf sort of logic is that?

 

Oh please don't deflect from the issue at hand. You speak of 153 years ago in a discussion of today.

 

voting is tempered by the voices of millions of others while a bullet is the sole decision of it's user.

 

Maybe it’s time to raise the voting age limit.

 

I was responding to your asinine assertion "It would be the first time in the history of this country we were ever so thoughtless." Speak dumb statements get an antiquated response

 

Voting could be done by kids that will eat tidepods for likes on social media.

 

It was. And you know the two issues have no affinity, in reality or time.

 

Nothing asinine about it and I know you can apply the logic need to make the proper connection to the issue at hand.

 

Or old enough to die in a war.

 

But do these Trump views affect your support of Trump? He’s advocating almost exactly what Obama did, but actually stznds a chance of success because he’s on the right.

 

This old argument does not bother me. Just because a young fellow is physical ready to take orders, do his task, and go to war does not equate to being read to cast an informed vote. No worry, it is not unfair. Is just the way it is.

 

No it does not. Trump is an ESTP Salesman and deal maker. What he say along the way is what ever he needs to move the negotiations along. It is the end result one needs to wait for before you evaluate. I understand it, I have used similar technique myself, although I usually bring in help to play the role.

 

I thought your stance was absolutely no infringement, no negotiations since there is no movement to be had. But now he is not only negotiating but he is championing the most restrictive gun laws this nation has seen.

Seems to me like this is a clear cut case of cognitive dissonance. There is no way you wouldn’t be pitching a fit if a Democrat President advocated similar policy.

 

Well we wait and see what becomes law. And I do believe infringements should be done by Amendment. I don't think banning a bump stock is and infringement.
More like guidance in avoiding a dumb, ill conceived accessory.

Your assessment of my reaction if we had a Democratic President is inaccurate. I even voted for a couple. I sure as hell did not like the most recent because he fucked me up and millions like me, with his stupid ACA. Far worse the any President before him. An outstanding example of why expansion of government must be done by amendment.

 

Interesting reply. You (or those of your ilk on this board) bang the drum loudly when Trump says the middle class is going to benefit from tax “reform”, or that he has created hundreds of jobs here and hundreds of jobs there. You proclaim he is doing doing a wonderful job and the dissenters should shut their mouths. Yet, we have pretty much seen nothing concrete (or at least worthy of all the hype). To this point. Only words and promises. You denigrate those of us who say we’ll “believe it when we actually see it.” Yet now that Trump talks actual gun “reform” (that goes against conservative ideology) you’re essentially saying “don’t believe everything you hear till it’s a done deal.” Seems typical of the right.....do as I say, not as I do.