http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/529473...me+-in%3AscrapsThat summarizes how I feel about religion.Basically. Confused.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (STAT @ Apr 10 2007, 10:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Christianity is not a religion. It is just having a relationship with Jesus Christ. There is no religion with it.</div>Again, a religion is"an institution to express belief in a divine power; "he was raised in the Baptist religion"; "a member of his own faith contradicted him" "or"A framework of beliefs relating to supernatural or superhuman beings or forces that transcend the everyday material world."or"Christianity is the world's largest religion. It is based on the life and teachings of Jesus Christ as described in the New Testament of the Bible. "etc. case closed. Sorry to break it to you.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tHe_pEsTiLeNcE @ Apr 11 2007, 12:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Again, a religion is"an institution to express belief in a divine power; "he was raised in the Baptist religion"; "a member of his own faith contradicted him" "or"A framework of beliefs relating to supernatural or superhuman beings or forces that transcend the everyday material world."or"Christianity is the world's largest religion. It is based on the life and teachings of Jesus Christ as described in the New Testament of the Bible. "etc. case closed. Sorry to break it to you.</div>Man yeah, that's what the dictionary and stuff says, but the thing is, Jesus doesn't want our relationship with Him to be a religion where we absolutely have to do everything at a set time and stuff like that like how other religions are. He just wants our relationship with Him to be like a relationship with your best friend, family, etc. He wants to be your best friend, not just some religion that you have to do correctly.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (STAT @ Apr 11 2007, 07:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Man yeah, that's what the dictionary and stuff says, but the thing is, Jesus doesn't want our relationship with Him to be a religion where we absolutely have to do everything at a set time and stuff like that like how other religions are. He just wants our relationship with Him to be like a relationship with your best friend, family, etc. He wants to be your best friend, not just some religion that you have to do correctly.</div>Reading this, I can tell you haven't really read much of the bible. I would prove you some things but I don't really feel like delving into the scriptures right now, and not fancying a religious debate. Just putting that out there.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (7Goat @ Apr 11 2007, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Reading this, I can tell you haven't really read much of the bible. I would prove you some things but I don't really feel like delving into the scriptures right now, and not fancying a religious debate. Just putting that out there.</div>I will admit I do not read the bible as much as I should, but I do read it. I have read most of the New Testament though.
Don't read the bible, that thing is trash. How are we supposed to believe that a man parted the red sea? That a snake could not only talk but trick a woman, who in our society today has way too much power, into being banished from some mystical garden? That 2 people created by some super being ended up creating a whole race? That people used to live to 500, 700, 900 years old? That Egypt had a plague where the rivers turned to blood, and all the 1st born were killed? That a man named Jonah was eaten by a whale and survived for a number of days then was spit out safely on the shore? That a man turned 2 fish and 5 loaves of bread into food enough for 5000 people? That bushes caught fire and started talking? That a guy had ridiculous strength that came from his hair? That a man could walk on water? That a man was thrown into a pit with hungry lions and not eated or even touched? Don't get me totally wrong, the bible has good messages scattered throughout, but the stories are just ... fantastic is the word I'll use.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (STAT @ Apr 11 2007, 08:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But the thing with all the stories is that God's power made them all possible.</div>lol But that's bullsh**. Why can't he make that stuff happen in recent times. Have you noticed there haven't been any fantastic stories like that in the past 2-300 years? Probably a lot longer, I don't know history that far back.My father, I should mention, is a pastor at a church. The thing he told me is that I shouldn't look at 'it's 4 lions not eating a guy', he said to just try and find the underlying message and stuff. But there's not really an underlying message to 'jesus gave 5000 people enough to eat and then some out of 2 fish and 5 loaves of bread'. That just f*cking makes no sense.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Apr 11 2007, 10:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Don't read the bible, that thing is trash. How are we supposed to believe that a man parted the red sea? That a snake could not only talk but trick a woman, who in our society today has way too much power, into being banished from some mystical garden? That 2 people created by some super being ended up creating a whole race? That people used to live to 500, 700, 900 years old? That Egypt had a plague where the rivers turned to blood, and all the 1st born were killed? That a man named Jonah was eaten by a whale and survived for a number of days then was spit out safely on the shore? That a man turned 2 fish and 5 loaves of bread into food enough for 5000 people? That bushes caught fire and started talking? That a guy had ridiculous strength that came from his hair? That a man could walk on water? That a man was thrown into a pit with hungry lions and not eated or even touched? Don't get me totally wrong, the bible has good messages scattered throughout, but the stories are just ... fantastic is the word I'll use.</div>Explain how the hell it's scientifically and historically true.Isaiah 40:22 (ahem) "He who sits above the circle of the earth" The Greek rendering for this is spheros or something like that meaning sphere obviously.That was WAY before people even had theories about the Earth's shape, especially it being round. Weren't they still thinking it was flat when the explorer guys found America?Again, I don't really feel like getting into this. Just something to think about.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (7Goat @ Apr 11 2007, 08:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Explain how the hell it's scientifically and historically true.Isaiah 40:22 (ahem) "He who sits above the circle of the earth" The Greek rendering for this is spheros or something like that meaning sphere obviously.That was WAY before people even had theories about the Earth's shape, especially it being round. Weren't they still thinking it was flat when the explorer guys found America?Again, I don't really feel like getting into this. Just something to think about.</div>I don't really think, however, they truly thought it was a sphere earth though. 'the circle of the earth' could mean other things, metaphorically. And science has proven that the Earth is round anyway. Science over time proves things. You can't prove 90%(or so) of the bible to be true.Though to be honest, I'm not bugged by people believing in the bible. It's the stupid fake bastards who go to church to show off their new outfit or try and get compliments and all the assholes who wear crosses and pretend to believe but wouldn't go out of the way to do something to prove their faith. Religion's just kind of a side thing, something to do on sundays. If you really truly believe it and follow the bible, then I respect you. But it's dumb fucks like kanye west who 'rap about jesus' and then whine that they didn't win a grammy, and have loads of money and keep it for themselves and buy more bling bling that piss me off and make me hate religion.Also, the religion wars piss me off. Islams think the Israelis are wrong, Israelis just KNOW somehow the Islams are wrong, and so hey! let's just kill each other, why not?
Man I agree with you in the last part. People nowadays are more concerned with showing off and stuff like that than what really matters, living for Jesus and God. And this also goes with what I was trying to say earlier. People who only go to church on Sundays and then don't even think about God the rest of the week starting after church ends just think of it as like a religion. When you have constant communication for God and you live for Him and let Him control your life, that's not a religion. That is a relationship with Him. That is what Jesus wants us to have with Him. And now because Jesus died for us on the cross, God forgives our sin. But does that mean that we can just go all out and be sinning whenever we want as much as want? No. Having a relationship with Jesus should make us want to be more like Him, which means not sin. But the church nowadays make into more of a religion thing: sing songs to God for an hour on sunday and then do whatever the rest of the week. But it shouldn't be like that. Kanye might be talking about Jesus in one of his songs, but I can't say that he has a relationship with God because of the way he acts and the rest of his songs. But then again, I do not know him personally, so I cannot make that statement knowing that I am completely right. But when people go and make bad movies (like sex movies or something) or sinful music, they thank God when they win an award for it! Thanking God is always a good thing, but He does not help them make those sinful things! It doesn't make sense to me. But I am not saying that I am perfect, or anyone is a completely bad person, because I struggle with sin just as much as anyone, probably more than some. Everyone is short of God's glory, but because of Jesus' sacrifice for us, we can be accepted by God as our sins are washed away by the blood of Christ! The Son of God died for us just so we can live with God...that makes me want to change my ways and not sin anymore. That makes me want to have a relationship with Jesus, not just think of it as a religion.
S2S...you are a ignorant, selfish punk. You think you have it ALL figured out...but inreality you dont have the slightest clue. Most of the Bible is metaphor(hence is relating to people for THOUSANDS of years). Theres been cases when people have actually been swallowed by a whale and survived. As I mentioned above, Moses didnt cross the Red Sea...he crossed a shallow watered Reed Sea(mistranslated in the King James Bible). Theres scientific proof of a catostrophic flood, and theres some "mysterious" HUGE boat ironicly on top of a mountain the Bible/Koran describes. I hope that one day you and some other people will open your eyes and atleast explore some type of religion...because you need even more faith in "evolution" than you do in Islam/Christianity....I respect peoples opinions because they can talk about it without us insulting them, or them insulting us...but when you come out and take a punch at something our lives REVOLVE around, and is dear to us, it really pisses me off.
I'm starting a religion called 'Fire Crotchsism' where we all worship s2s and all his glorious knowledge of the world and afterlife.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Apr 11 2007, 11:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm starting a religion called 'Fire Crotchsism' where we all worship s2s and all his glorious knowledge of the world and afterlife.</div> :HAHAHA: :HAHAHA: :HAHAHA:
No. You guys are all wrong.We came from retarded monkey fish-frogs.http://www.comedycentral.com/motherload/in...?ml_video=77709
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>because you need even more faith in "evolution" than you do in Islam/Christianity....</div>bullsh*t. period. Complete and utter bullsh**. Evolution has been empirically proven and is testable.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tHe_pEsTiLeNcE @ Apr 12 2007, 12:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>bullsh*t. period. Complete and utter bullsh**. Evolution has been empirically proven and is testable.</div>Which is why scientists are finding everyday how bogus it is, right?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (STAT @ Apr 11 2007, 10:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Which is why scientists are finding everyday how bogus it is, right?</div>yes, "scientists". Do you know what a theory is? "A comprehensive explanation of a given set of data that has been repeatedly confirmed by observation and experimentation and has gained general acceptance within the scientific community"The people claiming that there is resistance to evolution are nothing but christian propaganda vendors that know that their adherents will by whatever garbage they're told.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz @ Apr 11 2007, 09:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>S2S...you are a ignorant, selfish punk. You think you have it ALL figured out...but inreality you dont have the slightest clue. Most of the Bible is metaphor(hence is relating to people for THOUSANDS of years). Theres been cases when people have actually been swallowed by a whale and survived. As I mentioned above, Moses didnt cross the Red Sea...he crossed a shallow watered Reed Sea(mistranslated in the King James Bible). Theres scientific proof of a catostrophic flood, and theres some "mysterious" HUGE boat ironicly on top of a mountain the Bible/Koran describes. I hope that one day you and some other people will open your eyes and atleast explore some type of religion...because you need even more faith in "evolution" than you do in Islam/Christianity....I respect peoples opinions because they can talk about it without us insulting them, or them insulting us...but when you come out and take a punch at something our lives REVOLVE around, and is dear to us, it really pisses me off.</div>I've already said that I realize the bible is a metaphor. I have to ask right off the bat, why are you telling me I don't have a slightest clue? I respect you believing in jesus, why don't you respect my opinion that a PROVEN thing as (pestilence?) pointed out is true? It's not like I'm the only one who says that Jesus and all that stuff isn't true. Sure it angers you, but control your temper and realize that there isn't just ONE way. You're the kind of person that I, in a way, fear. I'm afraid that people to a stronger extent than you that are totally immersed in a religion and would senselessly kill for it ignoring 'thou shall not kill'.And Moses did part the waters, so whether it's shallow or not, how'd he part it? And may I ask where you got this story of a boat on a mountain? Source please? And I have studied Christianity, and I have a better grasp than most haters.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (STAT @ Apr 11 2007, 10:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Which is why scientists are finding everyday how bogus it is, right?</div>lol how'd they find it was bogus today?<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Apr 11 2007, 09:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm starting a religion called 'Fire Crotchsism' where we all worship s2s and all his glorious knowledge of the world and afterlife.</div>For real dawg, Fire Crotchism for life. FC4L!!!!! Camby's a leader lolAnd lastly, did anyone see that trailer for jesus camp awhile back where the people are doing f*cking lunatic things to kids and brainwashing them? Disgusting.
Of all the people I know..I am the most open minded. I researched evolution when I hadd doubts, as I researched other religions and try to understand...yet everything has led my back to the mono-religions. I try to understand all aspects, im a very curious person and I want to be right...but from what ive learned, the evolutionists evidence is greatly overrated, and theres so much stuff to prove that events in the Bible(Torah and koran also) really happened. I got really pissed cause you were saying "bullsh** this, and bullsh** that"...although I didnt read the rest of your posts(which I shouldve done). But I beg of you to research is fully...and try your hardest not to be biased...and see where you end up.
