Again, not saying Collins is going to end up the same way, but I'm just over the "big guys take more time" argument, and Vonleh was always a pretty damn good defender.... he just couldn't really contribute on offense. I think Collins could be a DPOY type of talent though. I guess we will have to wait and see.
I’d argue that Collins is developing faster than most. Defensively he plays like a vet. His positioning is almost always there and the way he contests vertically is also advanced for his age. Almost all his struggles are physical. That’s not going to last. As for his shot, it’s also asking a lot from a guy who’s still adjusting to the NBA and doesn’t get plays run for him, to shoot in rhythm. I have no worries that his percentages will be above average once he gets more consistent looks. The one part of his game that’s still TBD is whether he’ll be anything more than a shooter. Lately I’ve seen him take guys off the dribble and his footwork is advanced, so I’m cautiously optimistic he will be.
And those guys have no upside past bring an Ed Davis type of player. Michael Carter-Williams was ROY during CJs rookie season, and he was younger.
Yes, Meyers is helping Zach with the swish3, and has a lot of similarity with him. These 2 bigs are enthusiastic hard workers who speak humbly and can work well together. When Zach learns better offense and Meyers advances his defense (and both happens in practice), these 2 together can be a powerful strategy in the games going forward.
You're making stuff up that you have no way of knowing. Meyers will never advance his defense. This is his 6th year in the league. Dude was awful in the OKC game. Came in and immediately OKC started scoring in the paint at will. He's garbage. Your obsession over him is weird.
How do you know that? They actually seem pretty skilled from what I've seen. Collins is actually older than Allen and Bam is only 4 months older than Zach.
Meyers made mistakes in the OKC game, as do most all of the Blazers in their down moments. But he is progressing and I imagine that is coming from dedicated hard work. The Blazers do help each other, and we fans can look forward to improvement that they give each other as teammates. It makes sense to look on the positive side for a team that is outperforming expectations. These guys are improving each other. Why not look at the positive factors instead of just inflicting self-doubt from fans who could be encouraging?
Because I've watched them play and the skills they have don't make for high orbits players? Bams a good rebounder and decent defender. He's slightly undersized and his defensive instincts are solid but not great. I highly doubt he'll ever turn into more than an Ed Davis type of offensive player, and nothing suggests otherwise.
Yes, all Meyers does is inflict doubt. It's on him ti encourage us, which he hasn't. How is he progressing? For the first time in forever, he played meaningful minutes and was awful. The team is the 3 seed and Meyers hasn't been playing. They're related.
He's never going to be a knockdown shooter. Might be able to hit shots occasionally but bit consistently. Collins has more upside on birth sides of the ball. Hard to explain but should be obvious.
I’ve always liked bam, I think he’ll be a good player. He’s athletic, and fits the modern game with his defensive versatility. His free throw shooting also suggests he’ll eventually be a threat from outside. But he doesn’t bring anything that Collins also doesn’t, and Collins provides more length.
I like Collins. He is a hungry, energetic player. He's a hard worker and has a good deal of potential. I just hope that potential can be seen under Stotts. Collins reminds me of a younger Meyers who is actually excited to play defense and can take hits to the face eyes open. Lets keep our fingers crossed he doens't go down the same path as meyers and never develop into what he could be. Collins is coming into his own and seems pretty confident. I want to see more production. Is he the best big in the draft I don't know. Markkanen might beat him out for that spot.
