Politics Deal Coming Soon- Special Counsel Investigation Prediction Thread

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  1. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    A small part of the problem is that now that most of us don't have physical newspapers anymore, the line between the news and the editorial pages has become blurred (in the reader's mind). Far too often here someone will quote an opinion piece and claim it is evidence of media bias.

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  2. MarAzul

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    Ah come on barf, you are defending media bias! Geez man, you have to be in the brig living on piss and punk not to see it.
    You can rotate through channels, not to escape it, but to get a different flavors. Some don't even have news, just local spin. Calling it editorials is implying credibility.
     
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    Nope. Media bias does exist, and I'm not defending it. However it is less prevalent than people currently believe.

    Nope. That statement suggests you don't understand the difference between editorials and news. You are chewing on a dog toy and saying "this banana is not ripe".

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    Ok barf. If this makes your day. river's too I see. Carry on!
     
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    I agree, for the most part. 20 years ago when I was (required to) reading 3 papers a day, I could count on editorials to be just that. An example:

    The Clinton impeachment vote in the House reported by the NYT (front page at the time, I can only grab the link). While not how I like to read my news (the reporting of emotions and the like seemed odd), it was pretty balanced and factual. This editorial from the same week, however, assigns motives, "sticks up" for the President's use of missile strikes, etc. It gives one a different perspective that if you were, say, listening to Trent Lott speak at the time, but that's what you signed up for when reading a NYT editorial.

    Today's NYT front page:
    Trump Divides His Blue-Collar Base With Steel Tariff Plan
    Around the World, Threats of Retaliation Against U.S. Exports
    A Week That Leaves Even Trump’s Supporters Confused
    Trump Pushes G.O.P. to Oppose Funding Hudson Rail Tunnel
    Trump Embraces a Trade War, Which Could Undermine Growth
    Each one of those runs with uncertainty and assigns motive to fact, rather than reporting on the story it reports on the President's role in it. The story wasn't "Steel Tariff Plan, line-by-line." Or "What economists say the tariff means".
    Not "Hudson Rail Tunnel funding still in negotiations."
    Not "Trump's Tariff May Cause a Trade War". It could just as well not undermine growth. But these opinions are now being pushed on the front page. The blatant changing of words and misattribution of a quote by CNN a couple of weeks ago (changing the quote from "illegal" to "undocumented" while still quoting the police) is another aspect, but I know CNN is for entertainment. NYT is supposed to be a paper of repute (since they famously asked to not be called a "paper of record" years ago)
     
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    I always thought the NYT was business first...business being profit...they publish articles and pay for them..sometimes with a disclaimer...but you're right about editorials getting front page ink...I think it's the internet and sheer amount of info cranked out by the minute...newspapers are just not really up to speed so have to walk stories back pretty often. Now they are more and more geared for online consumption than the periodical form which took some time to put together...in the end you have to trust a journalist to be honest and I guess we do that a lot until proven we can't. I'm not getting my news from Bill Maher or Bill O'Reilly..
     
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    Is this a virtue signal?
     
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    no ..this is
    jesus on a tortilla.jpg
     
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    That looks eerily similar to my 6y/o's underpants on a bad day.
     
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    never considered the tortilla diaper option...not a bad idea
     
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    He literally didn't say that but you don't care. People do care when he says Alex Baldwin you know cuz accuracy.
     
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    Prediction:

    We're going to wake up one morning and find out that while Ivanka was away on business, Kushner has taken his 3 kids to Moscow, ending up in the same hotel as Snowden. There will be no comment from him, leading to wild speculation by the press. Trump will acted shocked but use this to make Kushner the fall guy. He will offer Kushner a pardon for return of the kids, then declare the Russian investigation is over and takes steps to fire Rosenstein and Mueller.
     
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    Implausible - there's no way he takes the kids with him.

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    The kids are key. It gives Trump a reason to act. "To save his grandkids!"

    It also highlights the difference between Hillary and Trump. Have you seen Hillary's grandkids? Of course not, she's eaten them.
     
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    WaPost recently wrote an article about how 4 nations talked about compromising Kushner because of some business deals. Buried 15 paragraphs into the article, they wrote that it is typical of foreign nations to try to compromise anyone they can for whatever reason they can. The article suggested Kushner was some sort of special case or somehow more subject to such compromise. The truth is that there's nothing to the story at all. When called on it, WaPost will say, "we did write that in the article."

    CNN does it all the time. 24 hours of some hair on fire thing. 1 minute of telling the truth. When called on it, they show that 1 minute clip and say, "we did cover this legitimately."
     
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    She didn't eat them all. Just the brains and the internal organs. Her winged monkeys ate the remainder.

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    I love this part!:cool2:
     
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    You support firing Mueller? Why are you afraid of seeing the investigation completed?
     
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    No fear Cup. Just and ill founded process in my view.
     
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