Re: Rosie O'Donnell 9/11 was planned largely during the Clinton administration...so I don't understand people who say Bush and his people where in on it....Bush took office like 7 or so months before 9/11...The 9/11 plot took form in 1997 just after Clinton was elected his 2nd term.
Re: Rosie O'Donnell <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Apr 11 2007, 04:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>9/11 was planned largely during the Clinton administration...so I don't understand people who say Bush and his people where in on it....Bush took office like 7 or so months before 9/11...The 9/11 plot took form in 1997 just after Clinton was elected his 2nd term.</div>So, now we blame it on Clinton. I don't know if you can blame the U.S. for 9/11, I do not think it was planned, but, hey anything is possible.But what Combs said about Roise is 100 percent right on. People have been attacked when they have strongly spoke out about Bush.Remember the dixie chicks? They spoke about going to Iraq, and look at what happened to them. They were considered "unamerican/unpatriotic" and their recorders took a huge hit. People are so afriad these days to truely speak their mind...and Combs nailed that summary right on the dot.
Re: Rosie O'Donnell <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Combs @ Apr 11 2007, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Who said they were dumb?IMO they are probably the most brilliant administration I have ever seen. The guy didn't even win the presidency legit, and nobody really cared.</div>You believe he rigged the voting machines too? Whatever. I'm not going to say anything. Believe what you want.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The guy completely screwed the country up to maximize his profit and agenda. He can't speak publicly. He is viewed as one of the biggest jokes in the world. And yet when it was time for re-election he had all of you idiots defending him and going to re-elect him.</div>I honestly don't think Kerry would have been any better. But, I guess we will never know.And I'd like it if you refrained from the name calling please. Thanks.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>To me, that is brilliant. More than brilliant. To get away with everything that this administration has done, and get away with it completely for the last 6 years and barely being scrutinized..has to be applauded.</div>To get away with what? Plotting 9/11? Rigging the votes? Going to war just for oil? All things that have zero evidence and are just conspiracies?There has been controversy with him, but with all of that, he's never gotten away with something. He's always been attacked for things that were controversial.And I can't believe you are sitting here telling me Bush has barely been scrutinized. He's probably the most hated man in America right now.
Re: Rosie O'Donnell <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Captain @ Apr 11 2007, 05:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And I can't believe you are sitting here telling me Bush has barely been scrutinized. He's probably the most hated man in America right now.</div>And rightfully so.
Re: Rosie O'Donnell <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaRdYC26 @ Apr 11 2007, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So, now we blame it on Clinton. I don't know if you can blame the U.S. for 9/11, I do not think it was planned, but, hey anything is possible.</div> I'm not blaming Clinton or Bush, blaming a President for a terrorist attack is foolish considering it's not the President's job, it's out national security's job.
Re: Rosie O'Donnell <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaRdYC26 @ Apr 11 2007, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Remember the dixie chicks? They spoke about going to Iraq, and look at what happened to them. They were considered "unamerican/unpatriotic" and their recorders took a huge hit.</div>That's why their sales went off the charts?
Re: Rosie O'Donnell The Dixie Chicks were pretty much blacklisted from southern radio stations, it's pretty unfair, but the people that took them off have said that the Dixie Chicks music was not really 'country' music anyway.
Re: Rosie O'Donnell Dixie chicks is another situation entierly. they are country singers, and country music is very paterotic and they support Republican beliefs. What they said did piss off a lot of their fans, but their comments about Bush was one of only a few which caused their fans to turn on them. They also said things about Toby Keith, Garth Brooks, Arnold Schartzenegger(Sp) and a few other major country artist. Natalie Maines(Lead singer) also wore a T-shirt on the CMA's which had the letters FUTK(or F*ck you Toby Keith). The Album they had at the time sucked majorly, they went completly away from what made them famous and for the most part the songs were poorly written. when they didn't win any awards they got mad and really said some nasty things about the industry, and the people who listen to it. If they had only said bad things about Bush I think their careers would have been fine, but it was all the other things. I also dont think the reaction would have been as bad if they had said it in the US, some felt like they were to cowardly to bash the president in the states that they shouldn't bash him at all.
Re: Rosie O'Donnell <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Captain @ Apr 11 2007, 05:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And I can't believe you are sitting here telling me Bush has barely been scrutinized. He's probably the most hated man in America right now.</div>I said for the first 6 years. It is only now after so many people took heat in the beginning for criticizing Bush like it was not allowed(where do we live again?) that people finally decided to listen and take a 2nd look and realize the liberals weren't just talking out of their asses.And I said "You idiots" in general for all the Bush defenders and people who re-elected Bush. It was not directed to you, don't be so sensitive. Thanks.And I love how what Republicans fall back on is that John Kerry would have been just as bad. That is nonsense. For one, I don't think anybody could have done as sh*tty as a job. But mainly, John Kerry was not a bad candidate. He had good plans. He was well spoken. And he won every debate against Bush and displayed to me that he could have ran the country, and done it effectively.Bush's MAIN problem is that he doesn't listen. He doesn't care about the law. He is clueless to the American people and what they want..or he doesn't care. He does what he wants and say pluck everybody else. It's his way or the high way. And that is a ridiculous way to run the country. Kerry seemed like a main of the people to me. He was in touch with reality, and he listened. he was willing to change and adapt. And that was what was held against him somehow.
Re: Rosie O'Donnell <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Combs @ Apr 11 2007, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I said for the first 6 years. It is only now after so many people took heat in the beginning for criticizing Bush like it was not allowed(where do we live again?) that people finally decided to listen and take a 2nd look and realize the liberals weren't just talking out of their asses.And I said "You idiots" in general for all the Bush defenders and people who re-elected Bush. It was not directed to you, don't be so sensitive. Thanks.And I love how what Republicans fall back on is that John Kerry would have been just as bad. That is nonsense. For one, I don't think anybody could have done as sh*tty as a job. But mainly, John Kerry was not a bad candidate. He had good plans. He was well spoken. And he won every debate against Bush and displayed to me that he could have ran the country, and done it effectively.Bush's MAIN problem is that he doesn't listen. He doesn't care about the law. He is clueless to the American people and what they want..or he doesn't care. He does what he wants and say pluck everybody else. It's his way or the high way. And that is a ridiculous way to run the country. Kerry seemed like a main of the people to me. He was in touch with reality, and he listened. he was willing to change and adapt. And that was what was held against him somehow.</div> I think Kerry would be a better President, I would have voted for him, he did cleary win those debates before the election. Bush was elected twice for a reason, people knew what his ideas were so I don't see what the problem is with him doing what he's been saying the last 6 years. I'd rather a President do what he believes then to do whatever the polls indicate he should do. Even though I can't stand Bush, at least he sticks by what he does. My thing is, he told people what he was going to do, he got elected based on it, now he's doing it.
Re: Rosie O'Donnell Uh the president should represent the people. George Bush represents nobody except himself and his suck administration he put in place. I would rather have somebody who listened to us and was willing to make logical decisions with it. They seem to clearly have no idea what they are doing, and yet STILL aren't listening to what anybody is saying.How can you like that?
Re: Rosie O'Donnell <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Combs @ Apr 11 2007, 05:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Uh the president should represent the people. George Bush represents nobody except himself and his suck administration he put in place. I would rather have somebody who listened to us and was willing to make logical decisions with it. They seem to clearly have no idea what they are doing, and yet STILL aren't listening to what anybody is saying.How can you like that?</div> What the hell do you want George Bush to do? What don't they have a clue about? What should they be listening to people about?---------------------Rosie O'Donnell being offensive.http://youtube.com/watch?v=t76Z82VM4b8
Re: Rosie O'Donnell Well at this point in time its gettin the troops home and getting this war over with. You got the people sending a message by getting the republicans out of there. You got the democrats pleading for him to listen. And you got the damn people we're "helping" there havin rallys saying for us to gtfo of their country.To me that is something he could at least consider?And nothing in that Rosie video was slightly offensive IMO but whatever.
Re: Rosie O'Donnell <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Combs @ Apr 11 2007, 05:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well at this point in time its gettin the troops home and getting this war over with. You got the people sending a message by getting the republicans out of there. You got the democrats pleading for him to listen. And you got the damn people we're "helping" there havin rallys saying for us to gtfo of their country.To me that is something he could at least consider?</div> Why should George Bush cave into the Democrats? Bill Clinton didn't give into the Republican congress when he was in power. I personally don't think Iraq is stable enough yet to leave, there have always been Iraqi rallies for us to leave....I don't think we should rush out of there because a percentage of the Iraqi poplation wants us to leave.....
Re: Rosie O'Donnell That is what a year of planning and work is for..since it seems there has been little successful planning whatsoever.With no deadline, this thing could go on another 5 years..or forever. Eventually something has to happen.But your right, the pride of not caving in to the democrats is worth way more.
Re: Rosie O'Donnell Combs again, is right and owning pretty much everyone in this topic. I say Combs for president! :happy0144: But anyway, My Uncle (who is a law professor at The College of New Jersey, so don't think this isn't a relabile source like some bum off the streets, lol) told me he was watching a show, and one of Bush's former advisors or something said that Bush came to this advisor after 9/11, and said "It was Iraq." And the advisor said, "No, Mr. President, it was Afghanastan. The taliban and Osama Bin Laden was behind this." And the President replied, "That's wrong. It was Iraq."It seems as though Bush's vandetta versus Iraq or I should say Saddam forced him to thinking that Iraq had WMD and was 100% behind and linked to Osama, when none of this has any evidence to back it up...Point is, Bush does w/e the F*ck he wants and just acts like no one's thoughts matter...
Re: Rosie O'Donnell <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaRdYC26 @ Apr 11 2007, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But anyway, My Uncle (who is a law professor at The College of New Jersey, so don't think this isn't a relabile source like some bum off the streets, lol) told me he was watching a show, and one of Bush's former advisors or something said that Bush came to this advisor after 9/11, and said "It was Iraq." And the advisor said, "No, Mr. President, it was Afghanastan. The taliban and Osama Bin Laden was behind this." And the President replied, "That's wrong. It was Iraq."It seems as though Bush's vandetta versus Iraq or I should say Saddam forced him to thinking that Iraq had WMD and was 100% behind and linked to Osama, when none of this has any evidence to back it up...Point is, Bush does w/e the F*ck he wants and just acts like no one's thoughts matter...</div> I like you as a poster Mardy, but when it comes to politics you have no idea what your talking about....it's like listening to the same liberal speech over and over with your posts. And by the way, Bill Clinton thought Iraq was a regional danger that had WMD's, and most European intelligence thought Iraq had WMD's, we weren't the only ones.
Re: Rosie O'Donnell <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaRdYC26 @ Apr 11 2007, 06:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But anyway, My Uncle (who is a law professor at The College of New Jersey, so don't think this isn't a relabile source like some bum off the streets, lol) told me he was watching a show, and one of Bush's former advisors or something said that Bush came to this advisor after 9/11, and said "It was Iraq." And the advisor said, "No, Mr. President, it was Afghanastan. The taliban and Osama Bin Laden was behind this." And the President replied, "That's wrong. It was Iraq."It seems as though Bush's vandetta versus Iraq or I should say Saddam forced him to thinking that Iraq had WMD and was 100% behind and linked to Osama, when none of this has any evidence to back it up...Point is, Bush does w/e the F*ck he wants and just acts like no one's thoughts matter...</div>Which is why when asked about Osama said: <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>"So I don't know where he is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him... We haven't heard much from him. And I wouldn't necessarily say he's at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don't know where he is. I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him."</div>Of course he wasn't. All he ever cared about was Saddam and Iraq.
Re: Rosie O'Donnell <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Combs @ Apr 11 2007, 07:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Which is why when asked about Osama said: Of course he wasn't. All he ever cared about was Saddam and Iraq.</div>yep, exactly.
Re: Rosie O'Donnell <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC? @ Apr 11 2007, 09:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Me: "Do you have any Italian in you?"Girl: "No, why?"Me: "Want some?"</div>Wow you player. Have you done like Bobby Hill and rented a motel room just to hold hands with your girlfriend? hahah
