Notice Regardless of what the gun nuts say

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  1. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    So uh, build time machine and take Ar15 back in time and rule the world?
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    I've heard hunters who took many multiples of shots at a deer. Must have been crack shots.

    Real hunters find such people disgusting.
     
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    First off, sensationalistic headline: "...gun nuts..." always gets clicks (no, getting clicks isn't necessarily a good thing). I digress:

    Who ever said he was a Christian to boot? Please provide proof.

    As for his half-sister, is that really relevant? I mean, she's obviously stupid but is there any real proof that her weapon-packing is related to him? She didn't bring a gun, so how's that related to this thread? And don't act like I'm trying to defend either of them in any way.

    Mental disorders don't necessarily lead to domestic abuse, violence, murder, etc. Sure, they could, but there's a fine line in between. Not saying I have the answers, but you can't just blur the two things into one.

    Actually, the vast majority of our states (about 2/3) now have private alcohol sales. Look it up.

    Look, I agree that our country has a morality problem and a violence problem. It's such a complicated problem that I don't expect it to ever be resolved. Not a sexy conclusion, but realistic. Also, I'm not what you would call a gun guy. I don't own any and probably never will. I have no problem with discussing gun issues, but we do have to keep the constitution in mind. While "assault style" guns may be constitutional, maybe they shouldn't be. I haven't read my pocket constitution in a while, so maybe I should get on that. Regardless, I just don't think this is something that some emotional teenagers have any substantial knowledge about. I admire anyone who has a passion for wanting to preserve life, but the twitter vid in the OP has multiple contradictions. I also have no problem suggesting (and I'm not the first) that a lot of these teens on the national spotlight - esp those who go to Parkland HS - are subconsciously using the opportunity for 15 or more mins of fame. Not saying their original intentions are bad, but cameras and social media popularity can have that effect on people.

    Go Blazers, love all of y'all
     
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    Serious wuestion. Where are the mentally ill getting the guns from?
    Are the purchasing? If so then we need more scrutinization on who can purchase.
    I dont know for sure but something tells me they are not ourchasing but rather, taking borrowing or stealing them from someone else.
    If this is the case, then i ask, how do you keep the guns from them? Without taking them from law abiding citizens who lock thier guns up and are safe with them?

    Honest question. Because there is no way america will actually take he guns away from its citizens. That will cause a civil war. Mark my words.

    Id rathher solve this withiut a civil war And taking away citizens rights to bare arms and defend ourselves against all things including a corrupt government.
     
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    Not fair. Six shooters conquer bow and arrows aNd muskets. But those are no longer todays threats.

    Not asvocating for automatic weapons but what was good then is irrelevant now. Different worlds.
     
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    what is bad is always bad....who needs to shoot 16 consecutive times and why?
     
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    You guys are way too afraid of these guns. I watched them shoot these things back and forth on The A-Team all the time and I think BA maybe got hit in the arm once.

    They are good for making an army jeep drive off the road and flip midair but that's about it.
     
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    no...I'm actually not...I just think it's become overkill
     
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    I was being facetious
     
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    Listen I have no desire to be shot at or stabbed. Not really my thing. But if I was faced with a knife-wielding man and nut job with an assault rifle, I’ll take the knife. Period. What are we arguing? That being stabbed doesn’t suck?
     
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    Third reprint.

    Yes I prefer a weapon that a single shot will usually do for many uses. The 270 Winchester Model 70 and the 308 Savage lever action are couple of my favorites along with a sweet little Browning knock off of the old model 92 Winchester, except it shoots the .357 rounds instead of 32-20. But these are not good enough for all uses.

    1. When I was running my ranch in NE Oregon, I took it on to encourage geese to nest there. The first year I had one pair that did indeed raise a batch of goslings.
    I raise the capacity of the pond to about 5 feet deeper and that resulted in a bit more area, moving the edge right over close to a grain field on either side of the pond.
    The Cattails had to readjust to the new, but they did quickly.

    Well anyway those Geese and their young returned the next spring and they all setup camp. I had 5 nesting pair that summer. They had grain right there and were doing well. I kept a close eye on them as the Coyotes were too. Then the dang Coyotes got one young one. Dammit! The next evening I set up watch over the Grain field from a hill side about 300 yards off. Sure enough, the pack of Coyotes game sneaking in from the far side maybe 550 yards off, working their way very stealthy toward the feeding young. The Ganders were on Duty but they could not see the Pack sneaking through the Wheat.

    The geese were maybe 275 yards from me, so I let the coyotes come to just over 300 as I judged it. Then I opened up, rapid fire with a 30 round magazine in the Ranch rifle. Dropped Two of the seven before they knew what the fuck was up, then they turned tail. On their way out, I dropped one more. I did not see the coyotes in the area again that year. Not sure how many geese I had practicing flight training that fall but it was sort of cool to watch then get ready to migrate. I was damned pleased.

    Yes, a whole bunch returned and we did the same drill on the next batch of Coyotes next season and the next. We lived there seven years before we then moved to Bandon. Probably had over 200 pairs of nesting geese calling that ranch home. I don't think I could have done it without that Mini-14 Ranch Rifle. It works about like an AR-15, might not be quite as bad looking, but still...

    2. Now I could tell you another story of why you need some serious fire power on a boat too. But I will leave that story for another day. I will just say the threat of being well armed is usually enough to win the day. It will be the shits when the bad guys know we legally, cannot be well armed.
     
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    Because of the times.
    In your scenario you pointed out we used 6 shooters back in the day. But that was against arrows.
    Now(for comparison terms only, not literally) the ones with arrows have guns. So i want a better, more powerful gun so i have the advantage again.

    Thats a loose analogy, but it gets the point across. Hose who have the advantage will win.
    Take he advantage away and the bad guys win. They will be the only ones aith the advantage.
     
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    All I see from most gun control advocates is a bunch of people who know almost nothing about what they want to regulate.

    Which, to me, is extremely problematic because I would never try to regulate something that I don't understand. I would at least educate myself first.

    I can't even tell you how many people have said something to the effect of, "we need to ban machine guns!" Or "We need to ban automatic weapons!"

    Is it really that hard in this day and age to go to Google and type in "current gun laws?"
     
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    Well, people who you've posted with for years can't tell you from another banned poster. Maybe people confuse me with HCP and that's why I get so much grief.
     
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    I had no idea he had been banned.
     
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    Even if he hadn't been banned how many things do you figure were attributed to you mistakenly?

    Reminds me of Jimmy Kimmel interviews with the public.
     
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    This forum is only big enough for one Nate!
     
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