Religion Judge Vance Day -- who wouldn't marry same-sex couples -- suspended for 3 years

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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    The Oregon Supreme Court on Thursday took the unusual step of suspending a sitting state court judge -- Vance Day of Salem -- for three years.

    The high court found that Day, first appointed in 2011 to the bench in Marion County Circuit Court, committed "willful misconduct" and made "willful misstatements" to investigators to cover up the truth.

    Day acted with prejudice against same-sex couples by deciding he wouldn't marry them and he instructed his staff to employ a scheme to avoid "public detection" of his plan, the Supreme Court said.

    The court singled out as "exceptionally serious misconduct" false claims by Day that he didn't know a man he supervised on probation was a felon. Day allowed the man to handle a gun twice in his presence even though Day had told him in court that he was forbidden from handling firearms, the court said.

    The court also found that Day lied about being assaulted by a referee or sports official at his son's Chemeketa Community College soccer game.

    "We conclude that a lengthy suspension is required, to preserve public confidence in the integrity and impartiality of the judiciary," the court's opinion said.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-n...f/2018/03/oregon_supreme_court_xxxx_judg.html
     
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    This should be real interesting.

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    Oregon Constitution prohibited same sex marriage by referendum of the people, and it wasn’t until a year later the U.S. Supreme Court ruled conclusively, determining that the US Constitution prohibits Oregon’s ban on same sex marriages.

    "Judge Day looks forward to vindicating his position in his upcoming trial where he will have a full and fair hearing, and due process provided."





    The Oregon Constitution does not prohibit same sex marriage. It defines the meaning as the joining of a man and a woman. Same as does all major religions in the world. As you know, Oregon Statutes allow for domestic partnership.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Apparently we have this thing called the United States Constitution and our chief interpreters of this Constitution, the U.S. Supreme Court says homsexuals can legally be married. Perhaps you can tell me which Constitution, State or Federal, takes precedence. If the U.S. Constitution takes precedence then I believe the U.S. Supreme Court ruling is the new law of the land and we should obey the law of the land.
     
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    Aw get off your high horse! It is too far down for your safety.

    Like I say, it shall be interesting because the Oregon Constitution does not prohibit. The Oregon Constitution on this subject is the same as the Bible, the Koran and
    Other religions. I suppose the Court can try to over ride the Oregon Constitution as well as the Religions of the world. but They maybe wrong.

    It sure will be interesting to see what the Oregon legislature will do. So far it is nothing for two years. But they did provide a workable solution.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    What? The Constitution is a "High Horse"? Tsk, tsk.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Perhaps you don't understand THE US CONSTITUTION TAKES PRECEDENCE!!!
     
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    Outdated and of no relevance to the modern world?

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    True. Not a word in there about Marriage. You know what the 10th has to say about that lack.
     
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    Three cornered hats with a pirate under them is way out.
     
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    They ruled that it is legal. The constitution made no reference to it but they voted 5-4 that gay marriage is a constitutional right.

    It is what it is. Hypocritically I'm glad they did but I don't like when they decide things based on what should be.
     
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    Well it will go to court now. The prior was by default, no defense of the Definition of the word by the AG of Oregon.
    The Oregon constitution does not out law gay marriage. It defines the word as has been the definition for 10000 years.
    The Oregon Legislature, provides the perfect alternative to provide the same legal status. They have not the power to redefine the Oregon Constitution especially when it simply codifies the definition of word to be the same as all religions including the majority religion.

    What a fucking shame if this judge is found guilty of following the Oregon Statute law where the Federal government has no Constitutional business specified.
    Clearly leaving the 10th amendment the rule. There is not violation the equal protection, because the Oregon Statutes do in fact provide the need equal protection in the domestic partners.

    Going to the point of changing the meaning of the word Marriage can be nothing less that a violation of the 10 amendment and Religious liberty.
     
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    It does talk about equal protection. Isn't this what the U.S. Supreme Court based their decision on?
     
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    Way out indeed, daddy-o! I dig it!

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    I'm a Christian and I think this guy should be out. If you can't do a job and it's responsibilities due to beliefs or other reasons, you shouldn't be doing that job. With some types of jobs you can have reasonable accommodations for certain things, but when it involves judging and enforcing the law, if you can't do that then you shouldn't be in a position where you're expected to do that.

    On a sidenote, I actually think I know this guy's family from when I was growing up. I'll leave it broad, but I knew one of his sons really well (pretty sure it's the same guy, couldn't find names of family members) and his son was chill, but little weird to see this and regardless of potential affiliation and aforementioned beliefs I initially mentioned, this guy should be out.
     
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    Don't pretend to be a lawyer but not sure how this will play out. From my limited Judge Judy learning gay marriage is legal
     
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    Me either.
     
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    I'm a Christian and I agree.

    My main stream church welcomes homosexuals and even has some in their priesthood. We also have women priests.
     
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    To each their own, and this isn't a thread hijack, but if your Christian church has practicing homosexuals in the priesthood they're not mainstream. Not to say they're heretical or wrong or bad or anything, but that's still a niche in the Christian community and by no means 'mainstream'.
     
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    They are mainstream. Episcopalians are mainstream. Catholics can even take Communion in our church with the Pope's blessing. So can Lutherans. I guess that makes us pretty mainstream.

    By the way, President Johnson was an Episcopalian. It's just the Church of England outside of Great Britain.

    Our Boy Scout troop used to meet in Christ Episcopal Church in Oswego, Oregon.
     
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