OT Is Harden a top-5 SG all time?

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  1. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Chris Craig, Mar 21, 2018
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    You're going to have to explain away the admission of rape part for me to be swayed.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Lanny, Mar 21, 2018
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    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Yep
     
    Chris Craig, Mar 21, 2018
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  5. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    You probably would need to specify the statement you interpreted as an admission in order for someone to be able to "explain it away".
     
    PtldPlatypus, Mar 21, 2018
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  6. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Yeah, I'm asking him to take my word that I read it someplace. Without that, I have no case.
     
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    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I havent seen him use the word rape but in his apology he admits that she did not consent.
     
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    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    It's hard for me to stomach this, but I think "The Chia" is already. No the winning might not be there just yet, but he's darn near unstoppable, and he's a way better team player than Westbrook IMO. Westbrook isn't as good a shooter as Harden, and Harden can facilitate every bit as good as Westbrook. Jordan was a way better defender, but he was able to get away with tons of slapping and holding back in the day. Jordan was an incredible scorer, and could take over a game. Drexler was a scorer, but not the shooter Harden is. Clyde was a way better defender as well. Kobe was an excellent scorer and shooter, but he was not as good a facilitator as Harden. Didn't watch West. Before my time as a fan, so I can't comment on him. But I believe Harden is top 5 alltime 2 guard right now.
     
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  9. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    OK--tracked down the quote:

    https://www.thenation.com/article/wrestling-in-with-kobe-bryants-forgotten-apology/

    Yeah, tough to read that as anything else other than an admission of it being a sexual assault.
     
    PtldPlatypus, Mar 21, 2018
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    I'm talking about the police report in the Colorado incident.
     
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    Not to perpetuate the #ringz culture but Harden needs some playoff success as the #1 on his team before entering this discussion. He's largely had playoff failures and the one time his team made the WCF in Houston, he quit on them and was benched during the crucial game.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Lanny, Mar 21, 2018
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    That's exactly what a person who signed a NDA would say.

    If it was exactly like she said she would have told that to the investigators from Colorado. She refused to speak with them. Refused. If cops want to talk to you about a possible crime do you refuse to speak with them or do you tell them about the incident they are inquiring about even if you don't think it was a crime?
     
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    There was never an admission of rape. :dunno:
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Please show me where she signed an NDA. I'll wait.
     
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    "Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did."

    She consented to the sex and the S&M. She did not consent to having her face splattered. And that is the incident to which he's referring.

     
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  17. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    See above

    "...she did not consent." Admission of rape
     
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    Is Harden top 5 SG of all time?

    Page 3.. KOBE DIDN'T RAPE HER!
     
    Lukee, Mar 21, 2018
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    You know this story came out when he was dealing with the allegations right? Read the whole story. She said she would testify about the kiss.

    There was no NDA.
     
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    Kobe probably didn’t rape that girl, I can’t say 100% because I wasn’t there nor was anyone other than the two involved.

    However, Kobe is a fucking scumbag for cheating on his wife and mother of his children.
     
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