OT Gun culture and supermarkets

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  1. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    I told the story earlier about the young son of a family I knew who was on a sleepover at another friend's house. This other friend pulled a loaded shotgun out from under the bed to show off when it accidentally went off striking the young son's thigh and causing serious damage. Whoops, there I go again recklessly throwing around that term 'damage'. I hope everyone can figure out what I mean by damage in this instance.
     
  2. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Hey, according to one of my nieces I'm older than electricity but not older than the Civil War. As a side note, my grandfather was born during the Civil War.
     
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    That makes no sense. An auto is for transportation, Guns are tools for defense. Not is the same class.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    I didn't say they should be regulated the same way, but sensible regulation, such as keeping firearms out of the hands of those with a history of mental illness would improve public safety.

    BNM
     
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    Well you say this, and I believe you think it is correct. But tell us who it is that you will deprive of their right to defend themselves
    with arms when necessary? While we as a society might have that right, I sure don't think we have the knowledge to use it well without walking all over the god given rights of individual people.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    The right to bear arms is not a god given right. It is a right granted by the US government through the 2nd amendment of the US Constitution. It has nothing to do with god. The Constitution also guarantees the separation of church and state. Let's keep religion out of this discussion.

    What about everyone's right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? Fire arms in the hands of the mentally ill seriously impacts those rights for many people.

    No screening process will be perfect, but anyone who has been diagnosed with specific mental disorders, or who is on certain antipsychotic medication should not be able to possess a fire arm. They are a significant risk to others, as well as to themselves.

    BNM
     
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    >>>The right to defend oneself with arms is a long standing right. See DC vs Heller where this is explained. Attached for you convenience.
    >>> Excuse me, perhaps you like the specific term Creator better. "all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men," I Don't see any people that I will trust to begin excluding people from their rights we know come from our creator. We do it as the result of due process after a citizen fails to up hold the responsibilities of being a Citizen.

    >>>It does no such thing. It specifies, Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.


    https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZS.html
     
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    Look up Australia. I'll wait.
     
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    I would pay a great deal of monies to see you in a pod cast debate with Ted Nugent. My guess is you would be apoplectic well before the intended conclusion. We could probably make it come to fruit if you desire.
     
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    He's a mental case. Just because you can't win debating someone insane, so what?
     
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    when a kid shoots 17 students....they are probably from different classes....math, English, etc.....guns are tools of aggression more often than they are tools of defense....the guy driving over a school teacher in S Carolina killing her was not trying to travel to her head area from her feet either
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    God or the Creator, or whatever term you prefer, did not write the US Constitution. Those are the words of man, not the words of any God or Creator.

    BNM
     
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    No kidding. Thinking a maniac like Ted Nugent is somehow good as a supporting argument clearly shows that some of these people are seriously deranged.
     
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    Yes. Well I think that will do it. Carry on!
     
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    Again, you're comparing apples and oranges. Have a good day.
     
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    Misuse is not the statistical norm. Please look the actual numbers on your own.
    You are in error by a huge margin.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    I'll get the popcorn.

    In fact, I challenge anyone to check out the murder statistics in countries with strict gun laws vs. countries with lax gun laws.
     
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    Most people who make that connection assert that our Constitution was inspired by God not written by God. The Constitution is not the Book of Mormon.
     
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    Ted Nugent? LOL LOL LOL, clearly he is one of the high IQ types. LOL
     
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