I'm writing a blog, and it deals with MVP argument. I need to get five candidates, and thus far I've got the guarantees in Nash and Nowitzki, but torn on everyone else. If you guys could help, please give me another three viable MVP candidates via your mind and what the media will probably pick.
Nash and Dirk obviouslyKobe should be the third one.Duncan deserves to be in the argument. There is no fifth option past those guys
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KMart? @ Apr 12 2007, 04:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That's what I initially thought, although Yao Ming somewhat crossed my mind.</div>I always think of MVP as who is responsible for the most wins. You can't be responsible for the most wins if you only play 50 games. Especially if the team does just as will with you injured as with you healthy.
There's only two...I'm sure Nash and Dirk will get about 90% of the first place votes. You can go Kobe, Duncan and...LeBron...eh...
If you include Kobe, you should include Lebron. Score a bit less, but is better in most other stats and team is 2nd seed in the east with way more wins.but essentially it's Dirk or Nash.
Nash and Dirk are the obvious two....But beyond that, Kobe, Duncan, and I also like to throw T-Mac in to the mix. He did great while Yao was out and he kept his team in the top 5 or 6 for the playoffs for a good period of time. He has stayed healthy for the majority of the year, he has been scoring, passing, and rebounding. I say he is the 5th option...You could make a good case for Lebron also as the 5th.
T-Mac is a good choice for #5, way better than Yao. When Yao was out the Rockets were still doing great mostly because of McGrady. And it's not like Yao comes up big in the 4th or anything for the tema. He may be the best center, but not an MVP candidate.
1)Dirk Nowitzki2)Dirk Nowitzki3)Dirk Nowitzki4)Dirk Nowitzki5)Dirk NowitzkiThat's how much he deserves it this year. The Steve Nash thing is getting old, we get it, the Suns kick ass in the regular season, that's fine. Let's see more now.
I narrowed it down to 4 candidates, and excluded TMac and Yao. Yao has had too many injuries whereas TMac is struggling to keep "#1 on team" status.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KMart? @ Apr 12 2007, 09:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I narrowed it down to 4 candidates, and excluded TMac and Yao. Yao has had too many injuries whereas TMac is struggling to keep "#1 on team" status.</div>T-Mac averaged 27/6/5 on 46% shooting when Yao was out, and lead team to a 21-10 record with yao out. With T-mac out, the team is 2-9 I believe. He has had a pretty good overall year, including about 6.5APG (career high). Rockets have 4th best record in league after an abysmal year last year, and to find the reason check at #1. There is no question he is the best, and most valuable, player on the Rockets.Can't wait to see the article from you! You sare very smart and seem like a person who could be very good at writing articles.
The article is a big *ucker, that's all I'm going to say. I'll release it tomorrow (Gotta proof read).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KMart? @ Apr 12 2007, 09:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The article is a big *ucker, that's all I'm going to say. I'll release it tomorrow (Gotta proof read).</div>post it here so we can put it on the homepage.I would put1.Dirk2.Nash3.Kobe4.TD5.Tmac/Shaq/LeBron
^Shaq? How many games has he played in this year??? That is ridiculous to put him in there even if he did well without Wade. He has missed well over half the season.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>That's how much he deserves it this year. The Steve Nash thing is getting old, we get it, the Suns kick ass in the regular season, that's fine. Let's see more now.</div>hey genius, the playoffs, let alone past playoffs, have nothing to do with the MVP
^Yeah, but when you get the MVP one year, dont do anything in the playoffs, and get the MVP the next year, and dont beat any real contenders and lose in WCF, and then you are considered a top 2 favorite again after not making it to the finals at least, it gets old. After Nash won MVP the first year, it would have been nice if he could have done well in the playoffs, and when he won it the next year, it would have been nice to see them do better. I think its getting old, ESPECIALLY if he gets it again. I will vomit.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Apr 12 2007, 08:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>^Yeah, but when you get the MVP one year, dont do anything in the playoffs, and get the MVP the next year, and dont beat any real contenders and lose in WCF, and then you are considered a top 2 favorite again after not making it to the finals at least, it gets old. After Nash won MVP the first year, it would have been nice if he could have done well in the playoffs, and when he won it the next year, it would have been nice to see them do better. I think its getting old, ESPECIALLY if he gets it again. I will vomit.</div>but you're not supposed to factor in prior seasons. whether it makes you sick or not you're not supposed to be biased by past MVPs (of course TD would have like 4 MVPs if people didn't think it was "getting old")
^Yeah, I know your not suppossed to, but all it shows me is that this team is a regular season team who cant get it done in the playoffs. They have had some setbacks come playoff time, but they really didnt in 05...And they definatey had a better team than the Spurs that year (personel wise). Nash is a great player, but he has tons of talent on his team, so they have a good record, and he gets a crapload of assists because of who he plays with. He gets alot of open looks because of who he plays with. Now I will admit, Nash is a great shooter and what not, but if you put him on a bad team, would he be able to score as much or put up as many assists? I really dont think so...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>They have had some setbacks come playoff time, but they really didnt in 05...And they definatey had a better team than the Spurs that year (personel wise)</div>Yeah, in 2005 they just had Joe Johnson injured. Not a setback at all, they were just playing Jim Jackson's corpse 45 minutes per game. So much better than the spurs' personel, who probably had 10 players better than jim jackson.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Nash is a great player, but he has tons of talent on his team, so they have a good record, and he gets a crapload of assists because of who he plays with. He gets alot of open looks because of who he plays with. Now I will admit, Nash is a great shooter and what not, but if you put him on a bad team, would he be able to score as much or put up as many assists? I really dont think so...</div>Yes, but MVP award goes to the most valuable player, not the best player. Nash wouldn't be the MVP for any other team, but for the suns, because of their system, he takes them from being a 45 or so win team to a 60+ win team. Not saying he's the #1 most valuable player in the league but I hate it when people say he isn't even one of the top two or three.