Game Thread GAME# 77: GRIZZLIES @ BLAZERS - APRIL 1, 2018 - SUNDAY, 6:00 PM (PDT), NBCSNW

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Which player(s) should get Ed's minutes (assuming he's out)?

Poll closed Apr 6, 2018.

  1. Swanigan

    20 vote(s)
    35.7%

  2. Layman

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  3. Leonard

    18 vote(s)
    32.1%

  4. Papagiannis

    7 vote(s)
    12.5%

  5. Collins

    29 vote(s)
    51.8%

  6. Other

    1 vote(s)
    1.8%
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  1. Wizard Mentor

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    Just so that you know, our announcers have said that Collins has already added 7 lbs. of muscle.
     
    Wizard Mentor, Mar 31, 2018
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    Yeah it’s noticable.

    Only 25 more to go lol.
     
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    25 more and he can't slide his feet on defense. How about 7-10 lbs. muscle?
     
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    Anthony Davis weighs somewhere between 250-260 and had a similar build to Zach coming into the league. I think Zach has the frame to put on weight without losing athleticism.
     
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    From your lips to god's ears....
     
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    Just for reference, here’s Davis as a rookie.

    7594D3DF-E2A1-4865-9C10-3DAB2A89B033.jpeg

    Now here’s Zach

    78801D84-117E-421C-8E98-3717868CB008.jpeg
     
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    Whoa there. Let's not start making comparisons to a PF of Anthony's caliber to that of Zach. Nobody outside of Gonzaga knew who Zach was. Whereas Anthony had generational talent and it was very obvious in college.

    I saw we play Biggie in place of Ed, but he is so flat-footed and slow. He hustles, but will that be enough?

    And I think Zach is going to suffer just a bit without his mentor on the floor. That should be something to take into consideration as well.
     
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    Zach was a McDonald’s all American, a five star recruit, and a lottery pick in one of the best draft classes in the past decade. He wasn’t an unknown lol.

    I agree about the Davis part. Zach’s gonna miss him.
     
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    Five star recruit....All American....yeah, well, Davis went #1 overall for a reason. Zach didn't.

    Unless you want me to believe that, had they been in the same draft class, you would have picked Zach over Davis.....?
     
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    You said no one outside Gonzaga knew who he was. That’s all I was replying to.

    Don’t know where I ever said Zach was as good as Davis, nevermind better.
     
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    I'm sorry. Let me back up just a bit here and say that I think it's unwise to start making comparisons between Zach Collins and Anthony Davis. In any respect.

    They don't even match up on build. Anthony's wingspan is half the length of the court, and his overall physique is way bigger.

    I'm just saying.....let's not jump ahead of ourselves and compare the two. Give Zach 3 years, then see where he is. That's all.
     
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    Build:

    Zach: 7’0”, 232 lbs, 9’3” standing reach, 7’1” wingspan

    Davis: 6’10.5”, 221lbs, 9’0” standing reach, 7’5” wingspan

    How does that not match up?
     
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    Uh uh. I'm sorry, but stand the two of them next to each other. The difference is night and day. Davis is HUGE. Collins looks like a pencil with legs compared to him.

    I get it: Davis has built up his frame since he was drafted; as anyone of his caliber should. So....again.....let's give Collins 3 years and see where he's at then. It's too early to compare the two of them.
     
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    The measurements I listed were from their respective combines. I don’t think anyone said they’re built the same now so I don’t know what your point is. Mine is that Davis is a great template for what Collins could become (mainly PHYSICALLY speaking, but their skill sets have similarities as well.)
     
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    Okay. I don't feel strongly enough about this to keep running around in circles here. We'll agree to disagree.

    My point: let's not make comparisons yet between Anthony Davis and Zach Collins. Regardless of what their physical stats are.

    Moving on now. :byebye:
     
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    Nurk if he stays out of foul trouble & engaged will get more minutes in the absence of Davis.
    Collins will get more minutes.
    And...
    Nards will get minutes :(
     
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    No he ain't a vertical leaper type guy but playing time gets him experience on how to work around that. The book on Swanigan is he works really hard. Doesn't quit. He has tenacity to fight for position and is teachable.
    Footwork is also all about experience. Minutes always changes that.
     
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    And you can see the difference. Was looking at a picture last week on this.
     
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    Well yes obviously. You think Nurk could play PF ?
     
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    Not sure if this is rhetorical.
     
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