Politics Don't like Trump but must give the man

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  1. Rastapopoulos

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    [I'm going to assume that this post isn't Onion-esque satire.]
    Trump is "trying" to secure "our" borders about as hard and effectively as conservatives try to reduce abortions. It's just not in their political interest.

    Although, he has managed to drastically reduce tourism (as well as killing universities' overseas student recruitment efforts), by trying his damnest to makethe US into an unwelcoming backwards shithole - so does that count?
     
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    (Sidenote: if anyone outside of academia starts throwing round the word "sovereign" - make neutral-sounding noises and back away quickly.)
     
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    stampedehero Make Your Day, a Doobies Day Staff Member Moderator

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    > Trump entered an isolationist approach with our Southerly neighbors by furthering his wall ideas. People are crafty. They can avoid a wall all together.
    >> The direction we should have taken is to set up factory zones on the border under the same terms as the Chinese model. The labor is there and the goods would be easy transport through the wealthy trucking industries of Mexico and the US.
     
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    Actually we do have a boarder with Russia. No wall needed. People do not flood across. with a one way ticket.
    US -  Russian border.jpg
     
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    Tell that to your hero Trump. He refuses to separate the two issues.
     
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    That's called a Sea. Learn the difference.

    Besides, Russia would never need a border wall even if we touched as they get invited right into our White House by the current idiot in charge.
     
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    We're not talking about Hilary.

    Please try to keep up.
     
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    :devilwink::devilwink::devilwink:

    He knows, he was referring to your buddy, you know, the idiot in charge. :crazy:
     
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    Nor the Canadians.
     
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    The difference is we spend a hell of a lot more than $21 billion to patrol the sea to keep out foreign invaders.

    The wall on our south border will be the most cost-effective invasion deterrent anywhere in America.
     
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    As do you. You probably have more in common with Trump than the average conservative, judging by your short and poorly thought out responses. Get a Twitter account and you're all set.
     
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    According to Trump, border crossings have been reduced 61% last year without a wall. Was he lying? Are you claiming if the wall was built then there would be no reason to spend money on patrolling our waters?
     
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    Once again, another lie by you. Another thing you have in common with Trump. I am all for DACA. Not the wall. I say separate the issues and let's see what happens, but your hero won't. Do you know why?
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Sure thing.

    Did that help?
     
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    Mexico would “pay for the wall” because of how much money they lose when we change our trade agreements? When is this going to happen?
     
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    No. You didn't prove anything or even attempt to. I get it though, you're on such a higher plane you don't even have to offer any explanation, a smug remark will do.
     
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    Who knows, probably never. I wasn't defending the idea, I was just saying that it was the intent behind the "make Mexico pay for it" comment. He wasn't saying we were going to hold the mexican president upside down by his ankles and shake the change out of his pockets, he was just suggesting there are ways to offset the cost. Who knows if any of it will happen. Trump talks shit, we all know that.
     
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    My hero? You realize you sound like a total dipshit when you say things like this, right? You are literally incapable of thinking outside of any "us vs. them" narrative. Anyone who disagrees with you MUST be in love with Donald Trump. There's just no other way, or at least not one your willing to attempt wrapping your head around. All of your responses are just slightly dressed up versions of "I know you are but what am I?"
     
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    This happened to me. I came home one day and my neighbor had moved his fence 1 1/2' over into my yard. He said he had every right to do so even though because of a surveyor's error 35 years ago. It turns out that since I had no idea of where the property line was and was never informed that the fence line was not the correct property line, he felt he could just encroach without telling me anything about it. I would have let it go as just an exptremely rude neighbor but he kept saying that my 30 year old grape vines were intertwined on his fence and that I had to remove them. I felt like if he didn't like my grapes on his fence he could remove them on his side himself. That is the law. He threatened to take us to court and had my wife in near tears as she tried to tend to our nearby vegetable garden. I went to a lawyer. The lawyer told me about an Adverse Possession law in Oregon that made the property mine after ten years. Technically it was my property 25 years earlier. I cared for it, fertilized it, pulled all the weeds by hand and watered it so it was lush and green. When I was gone, he hopped the fence and cut my grape bush down to the bare earth.

    My lawyer told me that it would take a year to sue him and that I would have to foot my entire legal bill. My Ranger buddy next door was ready to hop the fence and beat the shit out of him. It took a lot of talking for me to get him defused enough to stop that idea.

    I would have absorbed the cost with glee just to beat his ass in court but I got a chance to buy this beautiful house in Lake Oswego. So, I just moved and relinquished my claim.

    The guy who bought my house was an ex Airborne guy. When I told him the story, he also wanted to beat the holy crap out of this jerk.

    All the neighbors around me and on my street hate this creep. No, I had nothing to do with it other than to answer questions directly asked. Now, his kids are having a tough time in school because the children of my neighbors took the story to school and no, I had nothing to do with that. I would never do that to a child.

    Sorry to go on but this is the first opportunity to tell my story in the 2 1/2 years since I moved.

    You had to meet this guy to know what a creep he is.

    Anyhow, nobody but nobody threatens my wife.

    Oh, he also shoved my 50 year old niece onto the ground and into some blackberry vines. I was in the shower and missed it. My Ranger buddy came home from work, heard the story from his wife, and had to be physically restrained from doing my creep some serious harm.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Whoa there, that looks like a serious personal insult, certainly not on par with anything you suffered.
     
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