Exclusive The poorest person you know pays more taxes than Amazon

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  1. jonnyboy

    jonnyboy Well-Known Member

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    Because Amazon has the largest dollar gap between gross income and taxes payed. Their owner is the richest man in the world. I don't know, what more is there to say really? How else could one prove they are the most egregious example? What other parameters could one judge by? It actually confuses me that you are confused by this.
     
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    but Amazon isn’t in the wrong, the tax code is.
     
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    It’s more like you pointing at one neighbor and saying he shouldn’t beat his wife even though you elected someone who is a supporter of the right to beat ones wife.


    Analogy- not saying Trump supports wife beating. I’m saying Trump has been all for corporations paying less then they already did, which was already ridiculously low.
     
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    No, my analogy is right. He's right about Amazon just for the wrong reason. If that means the tax code is the problem...fine. Hell, fixing it for Amazon would mean others would have to pay too.

    BUT, you guys are missing the real hypocrisy.

    In the debate Trump told Hillary she'd just waste his tax payments (right!)

    And then he signed that hideous 1.2-3 trillion dollar joke of a budget. THAT'S what irritates me. Not Stormy fucking Daniels.
     
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    You must be talking about FICA.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    The poorest person I know also paid more taxes than Trump.
     
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    The poorest person you know paid millions of dollars in income tax? Damn dude. You roll with the big ballers.
     
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    Well I agree that Stormy Daniels doesn’t bother me either. But paying her off with in-kind donations 2 weeks before the election does. And that doesn’t even bother me too much.

    But that’s not the point of this thread.

    How much pushback have you gotten saying Amazon is paying the right amount? It’s s bunch of folks trying to point out the hypocrisy of pointing out just Amazon - because Bezos also owns a paper Trump hates.

    But what really does bother me is how petty Trump is calling out certain American companies because he feels slighted. For Fucks-sake, the President is supposed to be a beacon for American companies. Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush ... none of them were so disgustingly petty. It’s bad, it’s ugly and it’s damaging.

    Add to that the Amazon case is even more deplorable because at the root of calling them out is Trump once again trying to interfere with the Press.
     
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    Do you even know how corporate taxes work? Every company's payroll is tax deductible.

    I tried to watch the video, but those people are irritating. Maybe you could summarize the argument/data instead of trying to get us to watch a 13 minute video?

    barfo
     
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    In this thread I see Amazon pays no tax. I suspect that is not accurate at all, but they may not pay any tax on profits. Quite probably, for good reason.
    Do you think it is less now after the Trump tax cut? Or the same?
     
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    You can claim a tax deduction on employee pay, but it is not 100% tax deductible. Nor is the social security or Medicare an employer matches. Amazon uses a loophole by giving their employees stock as compensation for work, instead of salary or wage, and writes off everything. If you think that's cool, cool. Don't accuse me of holding a double standard just because i never said anything about any other companies doing it. Did you expect me to write a research paper scrutinizing every company who has ever manipulated the tax code, just to be fair? Or are you just on a witch hunt to prove me wrong because we generally don't agree on most things, and that's the game?
     
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    I could create a thread saying 2+2=4 and the usual suspects would swoop in and find ways to disagree, or demand I acknowledge other math equations or else I am ignoring facts.

    Or say I want to blow Trump because we use the same tactics to accomplish basic arithmetic.
     
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    I didn't say this year. There was a year where he made a whole lot and paid nothing according to a copy of his return made public by his accountant. I don't believe he's made any returns totally public in all the intervening years. I believe he released his version of what he paid at the last year that was finalized.
     
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    Huh? What's this about? Why pussyfoot around?
     
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    Is this just a game to see who can get me to defend Donald Trump? Can you guys not just get it through your skulls that I found something I didn't like with Amazon's financial practices, and there were no strings attached to that? Does everything have to somehow wind it's way back to me being batshit crazy Trump maniac?

    Seriously, it's getting old. Get a new fucking shtick.
     
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    I'm going to start a thread about turtles so we can all talk about Donald Trump some more.
     
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    I do not know. But more corps are paying less. If they were already at 0, can’t get much lower.

    This is hardly a Trump only problem, he just personifies the issue and wishes to perpetuate and decrease the corporate tax levels even more.
     
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    I would say they both are.
     
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    Do you pay more tax than you are legally required to? Why do you think Amazon should?

    barfo
     
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    Because being the richest cocksucker on the planet should come with some inherent responsibility.
     

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