Politics Kate Brown Says No

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  1. Mote

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    The current Adjutant General for our state National Guard is Major General Michael E. Stencel. When his command is activated through order of the President, for active duty, by the Joint Chiefs of Staff they are no longer under command of a state government.
     
  2. Natebishop3

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    This part bothers me. The National Guard should be a separate entity from the Federal Government. Outside of the chain of command.

    And this is why we need the second amendment folks. Our state militia is basically just one phone call away from being part of the US Army.
     
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    Absolutely correct. This mess started when Conscription was ceased in 1973 and our United States Armed Forces moved to an all-volunteer military force.
     
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    To me, there should be an option to volunteer to protect Oregon, or in the case of outright invasion, protect the US, but not be deployed overseas.

    If an invading army landed on the beaches of Oregon, would i volunteer to go fight? Yes. Do I have any interest in going overseas to fight our corporate wars? Nope.
     
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    Guardsmen that go through bootcamp, are sent overseas, or on disaster relief missions are federalized and on active duty orders though, right?

    Hypothetically, let's say there is a wildfire in eastern Oregon that they go to fight, those soldiers would be active duty but under the direction of the Governor, no? My family are long time National Guard infantrymen, so I should probably ask them. Either way, I think you are right, their is a weird relationship here.
     
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    Just the opposite, hence the name National Guard.

    The state is required to provide them for national security in regional and emergency situations. Hurricanes, earthquakes, civil unrest, in 50 states and all of our protectorates. Many were called up to fight in Iraq...
     
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    I'm glad you posted that information, but you claim ownership by Obama. Every annual Defense Act is negotiated in Congress, then signed by the President. Obama added a signing statement indicating his opposition to this particular provision. Read this powerful article, or at least the first few paragraphs.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2012/01/18/why-the-ndaa-is-unconstitutional/
     
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    Kinda like signing a monster of a budget bill and saying "I'll never do that again"

    It was signed into law by President Obama on New Year’s Eve. With his signature, for the first time since the Internal Security Act of 1950 and the dark days of the McCarthy era that followed, our government has codified the power of indefinite detention into law.
     
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    Lets hear what Texas and Arizona will do too.
     
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    I'm sure Texas will be all about helping out with this.
     
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    The National Guard has been used as part of the U.S. Army since at least WWII. Some of the first units to fight overseas in that war were National Guard units, and they were called up again at the start of the Korean War. Oregon National Guard units have also served in the Middle East and Afghanistan. I hope that if it comes down to it, Comrade Kate holds firm. But thanks to our Senators and Representatives, Oregon has one of the better equipped National Guards in the country, which makes us very attractive when the shit hits the fan......
     
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    The Guam NG unit I worked with in Helmand had an Oregon NG officer as their unit commander b/c Guam didn't have any deployable officers.

    If the Commander-in-Chief federalizes the Guard under Title 10 (has to be a national emergency or in wartime, which, hey, we qualify), I'm pretty sure Gov. Brown doesn't get a vote.
     
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    I wonder if anybody on here was a Military Policeman in the Army and finished his time in the service as a member of the Oregon National Guard?
     
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    I was lucky enough to get out right as we were being activated to go to Afghanistan. 41st Seperate Infantry Brigade.....tied in with the 7th Infantry Division.
     
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    I volunteered to be an MP but they sent me to a lengthy electronics school instead. I was exempt from serving in the active reserves because of my duty in combat.
     
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