2018 NBA Playoffs - What the "Experts" are Saying

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  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Crap--first Cowherd picks us, and then you.

    Season over.
     
  2. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    There is no way this series is a sweep, or goes less than than 6 games.

    Portland won 1 more game than New Orleans. And New Orleans had a really good road record (WTF is that about??).

    The ONLY advantage that Portland might have is the fact they've made it past the 1st round (not Nurk tho).

    I hope the Blazers take them seriously. Losing one of the first 2 games would be horrible.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    I LIKED this than UNLIKED it!
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    I teetered on 6 games, but went with 5. Have a feeling Dame will have these guys dialed in. If ET, Chief and Ed can play the way they did during the win streak we will be fine. That’s enough to get us past NOLA. Golden State on the other hand? I am just ecstatic we didn’t get the Spurs. I believe they would have beat us.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Trail Blazers vs Pelicans: A Statistical Look at the Playoff Series

    by Dave Deckard - Blazer's Edge:

    Portland and New Orleans will face off in Round 1 of the 2018 NBA Playoffs. Here’s a by-the-numbers look at what they do best and how they’ll take advantage of each other.
    By Dave Deckard@DaveDeckard Apr 11, 2018, 11:18pm PDTSHARE
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    The Portland Trail Blazers and the New Orleans Pelicans will face off in the first round of the 2018 NBA Playoffs in a series that pits superstars Damian Lillard and Anthony Davis against each other. Though All-Stars will grab the headlines, there’s more to a seven-game marathon than pedigrees and points per game. In preparation for Game 1 of the series, here’s a statistical breakdown of how both teams have performed this year: their strengths, weaknesses, and how they plan to gain advantage over the opponent.

    The Season Series
    Blazers Record: 49-33 (28-13 Home / 21-20 Road)

    Pelicans Record: 48-34 (24-17 Home / 24-17 Road)

    Head-to-Head: Series Tied 2-2

    Tues, Oct 24— Blazers Win 103-93 in Portland

    Sat, Dec 2— Pelicans Win 123-116 in Portland

    Fri, Jan 12— Pelicans Win 119-113 in New Orleans

    Tues, Mar 27— Blazers Win 107-103 in New Orleans

    The obvious common denominator in all but the last of the four games between these teams was the out-sized contribution of DeMarcus Cousins...now injured and not on the Pelicans’ playoff roster. His absence will color this series significantly. But New Orleans still closed the season 21-13 without Cousins. They’re not a one-trick pony. If their offensive stats are any indication, they’re more like a stampeding herd.

    Offense
    Here’s how the Blazers and Pelicans break down in percentage offense (statistics independent of pace). In all charts, “Rank” equals position out of 30 NBA teams. Top ten rankings are in green, bottom ten in red.

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    New Orleans runs an efficient offense, as might be expected from a team fielding two dominant bigs. Their conversion rate is high, a product of inside scoring. Their impressive assist ratio comes from feeding the Big Dogs. Though they hit threes at an average percentage, they aren’t three-point oriented. Lack of free throws is their relative weakness. You’d think an offense predicated on getting the ball inside to a superstar would produce more, except nobody but Davis and Cousins draws any foul shots whatsoever.

    The Blazers are diametric opposites in a couple ways. They create virtually no assists because Lillard and CJ McCollum take most of their shots. Their teammates aren’t high-volume scorers. Post play is spotty. If the wings are doing damage, it’s probably from the outside. It’s surprising that the Blazers don’t generate and hit more three-pointers than the Pelicans, but the Blazers can take comfort in the overall offensive efficiency being close even if the Pelicans dominate in percentage shooting.

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    Here we see the potential terror of New Orleans’ attack, and one of the factors the Blazers will need to manage. The Pelicans lead the NBA in pace. The wall of green on the right shouldn’t scare you entirely; fast pace generates more attempts, which drive up aggregate numbers. Combined with high-percentage offense, though, the ability to generate shots could spell trouble.

    This will be a battle of tempo. The faster the Pelicans can go, the more easy shots they can set up around or through Portland’s defense. If the Blazers can make New Orleans hold up a little, the extra points generated by triples and free throws will allow them to outpace the Pelicans’ two-point shots.

    That said, it’s hard to miss the 9-point deficit Portland runs in the paint and the 7 points they give up on fast break differential. Cousins being out will ease some of that, but the Blazers need to be careful not to let the game slip away from them, or else the Pelicans will generate an insurmountable number of points via easy looks while Portland slogs along with more difficult ones.

    Defense
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    Both Portland and New Orleans play defense well. Neither relies on turnovers; both play percentages. Portland’s low field goal percentage allowed is going to come into direct conflict with New Orleans’ high field goal percentage generated. The real puzzle may come at the three-point arc, though. The Blazers limit opponent threes, but New Orleans doesn’t rely on them. Will this completely stifle the perimeter game of the Pelicans, turning “little” into “nothing”, or will half of Portland’s cards end up not mattering? Can New Orleans defend well against Portland’s three-point shooting in turn, or will jumpers take away the interior intimidation factor, rendering the Pelicans’ defense less effective?

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    Just as the wall of green on the Pelicans’ aggregate offense chart got an asterisk because of pace, so too the wall of red on defense. Fast pace equals more attempts for both teams, meaning both will score more on average. Two numbers should legitimately scare the Pelicans, though. Allowing 110.6 points to a team that soars when it scores is like waving meatloaf in front of a Doberman, plus the Blazers love to generate field goal attempts. Give Portland a chance to shoot themselves out of a cold streak and they probably will.

    Despite the green on the chart, Portland’s defense is not that much better than New Orleans’, they just go slower. If the Blazers keep the Pelicans in the low 100’s, they have a great shot. The closer the meter gets to 110, the more New Orleans is going to like it.

    Rebounding
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    Here’s where Portland can take this series by the reins and drag it to where they want it. The team that rebounds best usually controls tempo as well. The Blazers are better on the glass than the Pelicans in every way that matters.

    Offensive rebounds and second-chance points are far more of a priority for Portland than New Orleans. This is a philosophical decision as much as a personnel issue. The Pelicans want to get back and play the odds; they can score points in other ways besides cleaning the offensive glass. It’ll be interesting to see if that philosophy changes when they know the Blazers operate in a fast-break desert.

    Rebounding could provide one of the chess moves that tilts this series. Whether the Pelicans change up or not, if the Blazers don’t build an edge on the offensive glass, they’re going to lose a key advantage. New Orleans winning that battle would be a bad sign for Portland.

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    Interesting analysis, but no prediction on who will win the series. It's interesting that once you normalize for pace, the Blazers and Pels are much closer, both offensively and defensively than the raw numbers would indicate.

    For example, just looking at the raw numbers, NOP is ranked 3rd is scoring at 111.7 ppg, but also ranked 29th in opponent scoring at 110.4 ppg. That makes it look like the Pelicans are a great offensive team that plays no defense.

    By comparison the raw numbers have the Blazers as 16th in scoring (105.6 ppg) and 5th best in opponent scoring (103.0 ppg).

    However, when you adjust for pace, the gaps narrow with the Pelicans 10th in OFFrtg and 14th in DEFrtg, compared to the Blazers at 15th offensively and 8th defensively.

    As Dave points out, the Blazers have a HUGE advantage on the boards and this is an advantage they need to exploit. An advantage in 2nd chance points (NOP dead last in OPP 2nd chance points) will help negate New Orleans' more efficient, better shooting offense and it will also help the Blazers control the tempo.

    BNM
     
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    The two wins NOP had over Portland were with Cousins. They don't have him anymore.

    The last Blazer-Pelican game saw Aminu and CJ combine to shoot 6-32--in New Orleans, in the first game after Moe's injury--and the Blazers were still able to pull it out.

    If Portland plays average, they should be able to handle the Pelicans at home, and win 1 on the road. I totally get a 5-game pick.

    I'm picking Blazers in 6, but I wouldn't be shocked by a sweep.
     
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    So this dork creates all those charts and graphs and DIDN’T MAKE A PREDICTION!!!?? Hope he doesnt’ get paid for his “opinion”.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    We'll never know. CP3 and Blake both have histories of being injured in the playoffs. Durability has more to do than luck when it comes to winning in the NBA playoffs.

    That's why LeBron has made the finals 7 years in a row. He's insanely durable, not lucky.

    BNM
     
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    See this is what I’m talking about. It’s like a Trump supporter (which I’m not accusing you of being) when no matter what they back him up. Dude, it’s OK to say we got lucky in that series by the other team losing their two BEST players. It’s OK to say that’s why we won. It won’t make you any lesser of a Blazers fan bro. Had we lost Dame and CJ, this place would have been screaming about how THAT was the reason we lost the series right?
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    See, what you don't seem to see is that these are two different statements.

    "it’s OK to say we got lucky in that series by the other team losing their two BEST players."
    Yes, it definitely improves your chances if your opponents suffer injuries to important players.

    "It’s OK to say that’s why we won."
    That's based solely on assumption. We have no idea how that series would have played out had Paul and Griffin been healthy. You can make predictions, projections, suppositions--but none of those are factual. It's possible the Blazers would have lost had both teams been healthy. It's also possible that the Blazers could have won anyway.

    The problem that I (and most Blazer fans) have with referencing "luck" with regard to the Clippers series is the suggestion that the Blazers' victory was solely attributable to injury fortune, and that a first round defeat was a foregone conclusion otherwise. That is pompous, presumptuous, and preposterous!
     
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    Answer me this over guy, one word answer. Were the Clippers easier to beat WITHOUT CP3 and Griffin? ONE WORD ANSWER!
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Probably
     
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    If Dame and CJ go down this series against the Pels, you think that might make things easier on the Pels and give them more of a chance to win? ONE WORD ANSWER FAMS.
     
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    Damn you!
     
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    WellthatisaninterestingquestionyouposehereHCPandIthinkyoumightbeontosomethingaltruistichere(lookitupyoulazyssImdonedefiningwordsforyou).
     
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