<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Apr 17 2007, 11:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't see what your annoying philosophical babble has to do with me making an on-topic point against Mardy.</div>A little off-topic, sorry:-I didn't even get in on this thread until the 4th page. And I was more curious about the reaction of some of the posters. I said something, and some people responded. It was as on on-topic as anything besides the breaking news in this thread.-So you basically mad at me for being interested and provocative? Because Jungle wasn't the only cat quoting me and kicking it. I'm not trying to look like a genius. I try not to be pedantic or dilettante. This ain't how I teach. This is how I learn.
Whatever....I just don't understand why you take pleasure in taking some small point, blowing it up and turning it into some big philosophical issue all the time....
-Gunman identified as Cho Seung-hui, a 23-year-old English major from South Korea-Cho called a loner by university official-Reasonable to assume Cho was shooter in both dorm and classroom, police say-Police: Victims found in four classrooms, stairwell-Police ID shooter as 23-year-old resident alien, English major-Police say one of the guns recovered was used in both shooting incidents-At least two professors among the dead in Virginia Tech massacre-Officials: 33 dead, including gunman, in Norris Hall and dormitory shootings
Haha gentile is hilarious, at first I was kinda pissed but now I feel like I'm reading a Charles Darwin biography or something, this is great. I should be paying for this
A person from my town actually died in the shooting, Matthew La Porte. Never knew him, but pretty shocking none the less.
My condolences to the families, this is one of the worst tragedies in my lifetime.But 2 things struck me as I heard this story. 1) Why wasn't SOMETHING done in the 2-3 hours inbetween shootings? I am not saying that a state of emergency should have been called and classes cancelled for a week, but I feel that the murder of 2 people should have waranted quicker and more efficient actions for student safety. 2) I can't believe, out of the 50 or so people he shot, why they didn't rush him. I am sure panic and confusion was a big reason for this, but when I heard he shot all these people at once with no kind of fighting back, it shocked me.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Apr 17 2007, 04:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I can't believe, out of the 50 or so people he shot, why they didn't rush him. I am sure panic and confusion was a big reason for this, but when I heard he shot all these people at once with no kind of fighting back, it shocked me.</div> Nobody attacked the Columbine shooters....nobody has attacked/stopped a school gunmen other than a responding police officer....it's not like 9/11 when you had older/mature men that sat in the back of the plane and planned it knowing they were going to die regardless, these are 19-20 year old kids in school who just wanted to get the hell out of there...I can't blame them....not to mention that guy was packing some series heat.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Apr 17 2007, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Nobody attacked the Columbine shooters....nobody has attacked/stopped a school gunmen other than a responding police officer....it's not like 9/11 when you had older/mature men that sat in the back of the plane and planned it knowing they were going to die regardless, these are 19-20 year old kids in school who just wanted to get the hell out of there...I can't blame them....not to mention that guy was packing some series heat.</div>As I said, I understand there must have been incredible panic amongst the students (my friend's brother takes afternoon classes in that building, and one of his friends was shot 4x in this shooting). But, with 50 or so people, it shocked me that not even one person did something to revolt.PS- here are 2 plays he wrote in college:http://newsbloggers.aol.com/2007/04/17/cho-seung-huis-plays/No surprise.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Apr 17 2007, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Who knows if someone did try to stop him, a few kids could've tried and been shot....</div>Take this for what it's worth (I am a 3rd generation listener to this story), but according to friend's brother's friend who was shot 4x, there was no kind of rush at the shooter. Again, it is understandable, but when I first heard the story and heard nothing of the kids/adults fighting back I was somewhat shocked.According to him, his teacher heard some loud banging in the hall. There has been construction there for awhile, so she assumed that is what all the noise was about. She eventually ventured out to the hallway, took a few steps back into class and was shot in the back. He then went through a line of people, and then left. The kid went for the phone, and many got up to help others who were more severely injured. The shooter must have heard them, and he came back in and went through them again, shooting my firned's brother's friend in the shoulder and kneecap. Just something interesting that I thought I'd share. First time I sort of know someone so close to something as big as this.
Damn it deadsoung, tell your people to stop being so f*cking crazy.The problem was the security guards. 7:15 AM, security finds 2 people dead with gunshot wounds, no weapon found, they stupidly say 'it's a murder suicide'. Are you f*cking kidding me?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Apr 17 2007, 05:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The problem was the security guards. 7:15 AM, security finds 2 people dead with gunshot wounds, no weapon found, they stupidly say 'it's a murder suicide'. Are you f*cking kidding me?</div> Again, you don't know the situtation, you weren't there, you don't know everything because you read an article from the news. God, I'm tired of everyone placing blame on somebody, it's sickening.What do you mean, security guards? I'm sure the police were there investigating.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Apr 17 2007, 03:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Again, you don't know the situtation, you weren't there. God, I'm tired of everyone placing blame on somebody, it's sickening.</div>Dude, that's FACT. It's FACT that security found 2 dead bodies with gunshot wounds at around 7 in the morning, and declared it a 'homicide suicide' and said it was an isolated incident. You can't defend your cop boys here BCB, they F*cked up big time.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Apr 17 2007, 05:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Dude, that's FACT. It's FACT that security found 2 dead bodies with gunshot wounds at around 7 in the morning, and declared it a 'homicide suicide' and said it was an isolated incident. You can't defend your cop boys here BCB, they F*cked up big time.</div> You keep mixing security guards and police officers, make up your mind....again, I was not there, I'm not going to judge their actions. If they thought the shooting was an isolated incident, then thats what they thought....there have been small shootings at UW-Milwaukee and they don't shut the whole campus down....it was just a terrible incident...I'm sick of people playing the blame game. Lockdown or no lockdown he still would have got into his dornroom and reloaded in time to kill more people.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Apr 17 2007, 03:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You keep mixing security guards and police officers, make up your mind....again, I was not there, I'm not going to judge their actions. If they thought the shooting was an isolated incident, then thats what they thought....there have been small shootings at UW-Milwaukee and they don't shut the whole campus down....it was just a terrible incident...I'm sick of people playing the blame game. Lockdown or no lockdown he still would have got into his dornroom and reloaded in time to kill more people.</div>They're the rent-a-cops. The problem is that it so obviously wasn't isolated, when the murder weapon is nowhere to be found, then it's obvious the gunmen still has it, and then they say 'oh he probably left the state, don't worry about it', how stupid is that?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Apr 17 2007, 05:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>They're the rent-a-cops. The problem is that it so obviously wasn't isolated, when the murder weapon is nowhere to be found, then it's obvious the gunmen still has it, and then they say 'oh he probably left the state, don't worry about it', how stupid is that?</div> I'm sure that's not the case....I was under the impression that the police (campus police, not 'rent-a-cops') thought it was an isolated incident.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I can't believe, out of the 50 or so people he shot, why they didn't rush him. I am sure panic and confusion was a big reason for this, but when I heard he shot all these people at once with no kind of fighting back, it shocked me.</div>I think the easy answer is if one would sacrifice themself. Because I'm pretty sure to rush someone, you need a group of people. And it has to be a group effort, when everyone's first instinct is for there own well being and getting away. It's pretty damn hard to say rush the shooter. It takes guts and risks, two things panicked people don't possess at the time.I have to say this news coverage is getting out of hand a bit. I just don't get why news stations literally camp out and make bank on this for an entire week. This happens with almost every negative event. It's ridiculous, it just makes you think that when something like this happens, media loves it. And that's sad. The amount of positive events barely get this much coverage as the negative ones.
It is just going to get worse, you can't stop it unless if you have 5 cops at every school which won't happen. Just shows how many crazy people there are in this country.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ReppinTheD @ Apr 17 2007, 01:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Now imagine if this guy was Arab!</div><span style="font-family:Century Gothic">The entire world would've stopped instead of just the United States stopping.</span>
