Alright, I was just at deadly, and some guy is saying that the Knicks should draft Brandon Rush. On the other hand, Mardy thinks they should draft a bigman in Aaron Gray. Who's right here? Mardy brings some good things saying Knicks don't need a G/F because they've got Francis, Marbury, Balkman, Q, Jefferies, and Nate.
With the addition of Morris I dont think we need one more big man. We have:Jared Jefffries(very versatile when it comes to positions)Renaldo Balkman(sometimes plays the 4)CurryFryeD-LeeRose(excellent veteran and smart defensive player)Cato(prob gone after this season)WE have alot of big men but then we have guards and not that much wings that are big enough for the 3 sport. Wings:JeffriesQ-RichBalkman
Besides Jerome James, no one is over 7' on our team? I'd like to see another legit 7' who can play defense and also provide at least 8 ppg off the bench. Jerome James just doesn't cut it.
It all depends who slips, who rises, and who impresses in the workouts. I don't 100% disagree with airupthere's friend saying that they should take another wing, though it's not needed at all. I think at 23, they should really just take the best available player. Who knows who will slip? I think they need a real point guard, to tell you the truth. Marbury played extremely well in the second half of this past season, but he has too much of a score-first mentality than he should (especially with this team, if they played more together they could be very effective). There won't be a very good point guard at 23, although I think Sean Singletary could be a surprise a bit. The big man situation isn't perfect, but it's really not bad at all. Curry is a borderline All-Star in the East, David Lee is an animal and a consistent double-double, Frye is a solid young talent. Also, when you think about it, the Knicks picked up a first-round caliber big man already in Randolph Morris. He would have been a 1st round pick in this draft, if it worked out that way (we all know the deal). He'll need some time, but I think he will help them out in the future. Curry, Lee, Frye, and Morris isn't a bad future front court at all. I think they should wait to see who is really going to fall to them and go from there. I think they should actually try and move up in the draft (package #23 with maybe Nate and possibly something else for a bit of a higher pick and a small filler). <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bohemian @ Apr 20 2007, 10:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>if roy hibbert slips to the knicks, which I highly doubt he does, we should draft him</div> There is no way Roy Hibbert slips down to 23.
Knicks need power forwards and small forwards, they do not need to be tall but you know physical, with David Lee and Quentin Richardson hurt for some games and being Jared Jefferies and Malik Rose are the next best options we need more depth at those positions.HERE ARE MY TOP 3 CHOICESThaddeus Young, Georgia Tech 6'8 217 lb forward is comin into the draft as a freshman and averaged just under 15 pts, and 5 rebs for the Yellow Jackets. Though his stats do not show it I think he has the potential to be a real good player down the road in the NBA. I have heard Young has been compared to Paul Pierce, though you may not see it right away cause I bet is he will not be ready to make an immediate impact in his 1st couple of years but after that I expect him to soar. He is expected to go higher than #23 but if he does fall that low I would love to see the Knicks draft him.Tiago Splitter, Brazil yes again this 6'11 international power forward's name is in the NBA draft. The previous seasons you have not seen him drafted because he has pulled out knowing he was not ready for the NBA. If though he keeps his name in this draft he should drop for the chance the Knicks can consider taking him because he is a really good prospect but he may think about jumping back to Brazil again which kills his stock and would kill the Knicks so this is a very tough choice. I have heard various comparisions from Pau Gasol to PJ Brown which way do you go with it? Still I feel this would not be bad choice at all for the Knicks.Sean Williams, Boston College this is my underrated pick cause if you are a Knick fan and seen Isiah Thomas' picks despite that fact they are good choices, at the time it happens you are shocked to see who he drafts and this could be the shock this year. Williams is a guy who has size, athletism and brings defense. Decent rebounder, may not be special by other scouts but could really be a steal as he is expected to be a 2nd rounder but his comparisons to a younger Theo Ratliff is what the most intriguing thing is about this kid to a team that needs defense like the Knicks.
I would love to see the Knicks package Nate Robinson and the 23rd for the 13th pitch in the draft. If we could get that, that'd be awesome.Or:NateFrye23rd Pickfor8th pick in the draft
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nynj2k7 @ Apr 21 2007, 09:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Knicks need power forwards and small forwards, they do not need to be tall but you know physical, with David Lee and Quentin Richardson hurt for some games and being Jared Jefferies and Malik Rose are the next best options we need more depth at those positions.HERE ARE MY TOP 3 CHOICESThaddeus Young, Georgia Tech 6'8 217 lb forward is comin into the draft as a freshman and averaged just under 15 pts, and 5 rebs for the Yellow Jackets. Though his stats do not show it I think he has the potential to be a real good player down the road in the NBA. I have heard Young has been compared to Paul Pierce, though you may not see it right away cause I bet is he will not be ready to make an immediate impact in his 1st couple of years but after that I expect him to soar. He is expected to go higher than #23 but if he does fall that low I would love to see the Knicks draft him.Tiago Splitter, Brazil yes again this 6'11 international power forward's name is in the NBA draft. The previous seasons you have not seen him drafted because he has pulled out knowing he was not ready for the NBA. If though he keeps his name in this draft he should drop for the chance the Knicks can consider taking him because he is a really good prospect but he may think about jumping back to Brazil again which kills his stock and would kill the Knicks so this is a very tough choice. I have heard various comparisions from Pau Gasol to PJ Brown which way do you go with it? Still I feel this would not be bad choice at all for the Knicks.Sean Williams, Boston College this is my underrated pick cause if you are a Knick fan and seen Isiah Thomas' picks despite that fact they are good choices, at the time it happens you are shocked to see who he drafts and this could be the shock this year. Williams is a guy who has size, athletism and brings defense. Decent rebounder, may not be special by other scouts but could really be a steal as he is expected to be a 2nd rounder but his comparisons to a younger Theo Ratliff is what the most intriguing thing is about this kid to a team that needs defense like the Knicks.</div>I am thinking the same thing, son. Young would definitely be a good choice out of Boston College. What about Afflalo from ucla?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capote @ Apr 23 2007, 01:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I am thinking the same thing, son. Young would definitely be a good choice out of Boston College. What about Afflalo from ucla?</div>Young is from GT, I think you mean Sean Williams out of Boston College? Afflalo from UCLA would be alright, but I just think we can do better then him. There's something about his game I don't like, I can't put my finger on it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Garbajosa.n.cheese @ Apr 29 2007, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Knicks need a new coach.</div>Worthless post. Isiah proved some haters wrong this year. Marbury is finally the old Marbury, Curry has done great being a number 1 option, he benches players who deserve to be benched(I.e Steve Francis), gave D-Lee minutes he derserves, and motivates the team. The problem is that we play terribel in the 1st half and then play strong in th 2nd. We need to reverse that or avoid the bad play.
I agree 100% with this. ITS THE TRUTH!By Tommy Beer for HOOPSWORLD.com Apr 19, 2007, 17:37 ?If you can accept losing, you can't win.? - Vince Lombardi Back on March 10th, the Knicks owned sole-possession of the 8th and final playoff spot. They were a mere five games under .500, which represents "significant progress" in New York these days. Just ask Knicks owner James Dolan, who jumped the gun and gave Isiah Thomas a contract extension right then and there. At the time, Thomas talked encouragingly about the playoffs and felt that it could come right down to the wire, possibly even the last game of the year. There were 19 games left in the season at that point. Well, the last game of the season took place last night and the Knicks won on a tip-in by Eddy Curry with only six-tenths of a second remaining. However, the outcome was meaningless. In fact, the only joy Knicks fans could glean from the win over the Bobcats was having reduced the number of ping-pong balls the Chicago Bulls will have in the lottery hopper. The Knicks had been mathematically eliminated from the playoffs last week, and realistically eliminated back in March. In the 19 games played following the 'Isiah Thomas extension" announcement, the Knicks lost 15 of them. Some were close, some were blowouts. But according to Isiah Thomas, it seemed that as long as the Knicks "competed" and "tried hard," losses were acceptable. Of these many defeats, the most infamous and embarrassing one was 'Hamburger-gate'; the 98-69 defeat in Chicago which garnered national headlines because the Bulls attempted to score 100 points so their fans could get a free Big Mac. This game came during a stretch in which the Knicks would lose nine of ten contests. Still, after that Chicago game, Isiah was satisfied with his team. Seriously. ?Our guys were just trying to compete. It was a tough game for us. It was our 4th game in five nights," Isiah told a group of reporters after the game. "But the guys ? I told them ? they have played hard for me all year. Whatever they had, I thought they gave it to me tonight. So we just move onto the next game.? Isiah continued, "It just wasn?t our night. We didn?t have enough firepower and they had more. I thought we tried to compete and I thought our guys tried to play hard." The only surprise here was that it took Isiah so long to mention the injury problems the team has faced this season. (We'll get into why that is not a valid excuse another day...) What is frustrating is that you know Isiah would never have accepted these losses as a player. You think he would have said the same thing to his Bad Boy Piston teammates after a 30-point loss? Isiah Thomas (the player) was one of the most intense, hard-nosed, and driven players in NBA history. And he was reportedly just as demanding on his teammates as himself. You don't become an immortal NBA player at six-feet tall unless you are uncompromising. But as a coach and GM, Zeke has become far too accommodating... The Knicks, once a flagship franchise, have become the laughing stock of the NBA. These are the New York Knicks we are talking about! There was a time when the Knicks would win 50 games and people would complain they didn't make it to the Championship round. Patrick Ewing would carry the Knicks to Game 7 of the Finals, but then get booed because he "couldn't win the big game." Now fans are expected to cheer because the Knicks try to win regular season games? Have Knicks fans really become that soft? This is New York City, where A-Rod gets vilified for a post-season slump, regardless of whether or not he wins the regular-season MVP award. The Yankees have made the playoffs every single season since 1996 under manager Joe Torre, and have won four World Series rings during that time. But the Yanks have not won one since 2000, thus people were calling for Torre's head last October. And George Steinbrenner almost delivered it to them, before GM Brian Cashman calmed him down. Ask Derek Jeter or any other Yankee during spring training and they will tell you, "Our season is a failure if we don't win the World Series." Obviously, the Knicks are a long ways from a championship, and expecting to win an NBA title next season would be misguided. However, using a 23-win nightmare season as the barometer for success and making excuses for embarrassing performances is far more damaging. This team has minimal margin for error, so allowing them to be content by simply putting fourth a decent effort has produced pitiful results. It is a corporate culture that has been tolerated far too long. Defense, in particular, is a direct by-product of hustle and energy. Players need to be held accountable. The best coaches in the league (Popovich, Van Gundy, Riley etc.) all espouse defense first. Look at the difference in Dallas since Avery Johnson replaced Don Nelson. Even though the team is 14 games below .500, Knicks fan are expected to be satisfied because the team is "trying hard." These guys are getting paid millions upon millions of dollars to plays hoops for a living. Do they really deserve to get a pat on the back for competing? Do fans, coaches, owners, etc. not have the right to expect supreme effort from each player every night they step on the court? A fish rots from the head down, or so they say. Check out the comments by Knicks owner James Dolan during a radio appearance on Tuesday afternoon on WFAN's Mike and the Mad Dog show here in New York. Dolan spoke to the team after falling to the Nets in the final home game of the season (New York lost each home game they played in April), and described the conversation: ?Basically, I told them I was unhappy we didn?t make the playoffs as I knew they were, but I also thanked them for the effort they put in,? Dolan said. ?They had plenty of reasons to throw in the towel." Exactly what reason did the New York Knicks have to throw in the towel? Where they the only team to deal with injury issues? Houston lost Yao and T-Mac for stretches. Miami lost Dwyane Wade. Did they lie down? So now we are expected to congratulate the Knicks for not quitting? Love him or hate him, George Steinbrenner expects excellence. In fact, he demands excellence. How long would Isiah have lasted, as either GM or coach, if he was employed by the Yankees? (Keep in mind that the Knicks have the highest payroll in the history of the sport.) And check out the impact Mark Cuban has had on the culture in Dallas. This year marks the seventh consecutive season the Dallas Mavericks have won at least 50 games. On the other hand, the Knicks have not won a single playoff game since April of 2001. New York has not finished above .500 since 2001-2002. But hey, at least the Knicks played hard most nights...
