Sam Hinkie: The anti-Olshey

What's funny about Utah is that Portland could have their major pieces right now and Dame/CJ. Gobert didn't go until pick 27 by Denver and was traded to Utah for a 2nd round pick and cash. Last draft we could've just taken Mitchell or if we didn't have as good of a pick to trade up we could've still traded with Denver like they did with Utah. Ingles was a free agent so anyone could sign him.

Just an example of how you can still build a contender without the Hinkie method. We'd have Dame, CJ, Mitchell, Ingles, and Gobert at minimum with the right moves.

 

The crazy thing about Hinkie's strategy: Philly didn't even hit on 100% or even 80% of their attempts to get better.

-Okafor over Porzingis \ Booker\ Myles Turner\ Willie Stein.
- Carter Williams over Greek Freak\ Steven Adams.
-Nerlens Noel.
-Fultz over Tatum\ too many to name. (Even tho this one might be TBD).

We hit the MOTHERFUCKING JACKPOT with Lillard,CJ and even Nurkic , but our future is looking very... gray? when you compare it to the Sixers' future.

Hinkie was right.
If it was Neil instead of Hinkie he would just continue to build around Jrue Holiday and his injuries, overpay some veterans and guys he knew from his time in LA... then say in interviews his usual : " We can't get Free agents" \ "We don't have trade assets"\"We've developed Evan Turner into a 100million$ player" \ "It's not realistic for us to be\Do XYZ" blah blah blah etc etc.

Come to think of it, it's quite amusing to think that if he was the Sixers GM, he would still overpay for Even fucking Turner.

 

Been a Magic fan ever since Shaq was ripping down goalposts in 1992. The Magic PR people knew the Magic would be horrible this season and so when they was trying to sell season tickets they leaned heavily on buying tickets means getting to watch the best superstars of other teams. Sitting through the Magic the past few seasons has been a total chore for even the most die hard of Magic fans including the people who work for the company. The tanking thing just is not working because there keeps being other teams tanking at the same time, and doing it better or playing in a better conference than the Magic. So the ping pong balls keep bouncing their way. 6 seasons of total suck and there appears to be no end in sight because they make trades like Victor Oladipo for half a season of Serge Ibaka. I would not wish this on any fanbase.

 

That was not the strategy and you know it. The strategy was / is - to have multiple assets so when an opportunity happens - he could pounce on it - and he did. I suspect that this is exactly what he did with the contracts to Moe and ML for example.

 

I don't remember why exactly but I honestly thought the Blazers were going to draft Gobert (maybe buy a pick? Don't remember details), at least I had hoped they would, and I was disappointed they didn't.

 

I know a lot of fans, including me, wanted Gobert. Olshey has admitted he missed the boat on Gobert (as most GMs did) so it probably wasn't a move we considered.

 

Waitaminute - you trash the Sixers for taking ROY Michael Carter-Williams over Giannis when we took CJ over Giannis and it's the "jackpot"? Sixers could probably have flipped MCW for a lottery pick if they'd done it soon enough.

Also: can't blame Hinkie for trading up for Fultz instead of staying put for Donovan Mitchell - he'd been fired long since.

 

Of course he didn't hit on 100% or 80%. He fully understood that the hit-rate was something closer to 50%, which is why he kept trying to take extra pulls from the slot machine.

 

So they didn't draft well and it still succeeded. Hmm...

 

No, if we weren't extremely unlucky then that'd be the case. We didn't need luck for that.

 

Well, Olshey wanted to tank and build around CJ and Dame (who were 22 and 24 then). That's why the Blazers didn't retain RoLo and Mathews and maybe Batum. If the Blazers sucked enough to nab Embiid, Porzingis, and/or Simmons, it'd be Sixer fans who say, "We need a Neil Olshey rather than a Hinkie."

Truthfully, this team has over-performed for what level of talent it has because we were only one thirteen game win streak away from being a borderline playoff team.

Trading a few key role players for picks should do the trick in propelling the Blazers to the bottom - giving this team a shot or two at drafting a legitimate star. Imo, that should be the Blazers strategy if they don't want to get stuck in mediocrity.

 

All that matters is that Olshey has been here about 80 years and we need to try someone different. He had his chance and proved that he's not above-average. There are way too many fish in the sea to stick with a below-average, at best average, GM.

But I understand, the board needs this...Because of Olshey's early playoff exit failure, the board lacks Blazer game threads, so the board needs fake controversy to have activity. So these agony-prolonging threads dominated by a couple of O-Live Olshey defenders are their attempt to mend the board activity vacuum caused by their man. Circular logic, with ironic effect.

 

Do you think Darryl Morey is a good GM?

 

Reminds me of Rudy Giuliani. He loves himself and media praise, in that order. Anyone tired of Olshey's self-praise would barf when they read the sycophant reporting around Morey. Think of Pritchard and Quick, only on a national scale.

 

Is that a yes or a no? ha ha

You can love yourself and media praise and still be a good GM or have total humility and be a bad GM so it doesn't really answer my question. Unless you are saying your hatred for Olshey is only because of the way he likes self-praise.

 

Which small chips has Morey gotten? What impresses me is a talent evaluator who keeps making profitable (the in exceeds the out) trades every year. Not just some lucky swing-for-the-bleachers FA signing, then the GM goes on vacation for 4 years. Olshey has had his chance, and has a self-satisfied attitude about his work ethic.

 

Can you not just answer the question?

 

Me: I want to barf when I see Morey.

You: Is that a yes or no?

Me: Morey has done nothing. I'm unimpressed by lucky signings years apart.

You: Can't you just answer the question?

Me: (goes out and murders Morey to satisfy this guy.)

You: Your evasion technique is a diversion from my diversion technique in which I'm distracting the board from Olshey toward Morey.

Me: (nukes Houston to get this guy's attention)

You: Is that a yes or no? Heh heh, this diversion stuff usually works. I'll ask my boss Olshey for a raise. I'm hot, dominating every thread against the majority.

 

Dude, you are the one making it very confusing if you are talking about Olshey or Morey (or both) in your posts. I asked if he was a good GM and you responded saying he likes self-praise which doesn't answer the question.

Why can't you have a discussion without bringing up posters working for Olshey and your psychological bullshit?

 

Board: the Blazer board, which is more concerned with its own GM than Philly's

Thread title: "Sam Hinkie: The anti-Olshey"

You (after pages of making readers forget that Olshey exists): "Dude, you are the one making it very confusing if you are talking about Olshey or Morey (or both)"