Around the NBA Playoffs - Round Two

The defender has to beat the offensive player to the spot. It's that simple. If you slide into or against the offensive player, its a foul. I don't know where youre coming from, its pretty simple.

 

Yup. And youll contribute!

 

Highschool, 1 year of college (small school in Canada), and different adult leagues. I played a basketball for a good portion of 20 years though before my knee's got wrecked.

 

That's not what was said at all but nice try.

I did counter you. I said the D must be in a legal guarding position. You wanted to change the definition of what that is and that would have disastrous results. People would be in "legal" guarding positions facing away from the offense.

It makes no senses and yes, is asinine.

 

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Yeah, I definitely said I wanted the legal guarding position to be "facing away from the offense", you can clearly only have it the way it is now or to the opposite extreme...

 

Well I said the main thing I want, is for hand-checking to come back. Moving Screens getting called more regularly would be nice too. I guess in my opinion I just see the offensive player running into defenders while the defender does what their supposed to do and it goes in the offensive players favor more often than I think it should.
Harden's the best example of it, but there are others. He literally throws his body at defenders pretty frequently and they get called for fouls and I'm constantly asking my self outside of just moving out of the way what are they supposed to do... What makes it worse is when they don't get the call they jump up and down and lose their mind for 10 seconds over it.

 

I got it.

 

I don't know, is reffing the one job on Earth that all of the employees are good at?

I've worked with tons of collision techs that have no idea what they are doing.

 

Wow, it’s amazing how you can read my mind about why I liked a post and from that determine that I have no clue. Give me a break.

No, I don’t think the defensive player has to jump out of Harden’s way to avoid fouling PER THE RULES. I do think Harden is one of the most notorious cheaters in the league who has honed his skills at deceiving the refs. I think the league needs to clean this shit up:

 

Hey Philly won!

 

Your posts are annoying little gnats. One of the few things that lives that I kill...

My point is you want to change the definition of "legal guarding position" to mean the defender doesn't have to be completely square (which is what you've been whining about the whole time).

I disagree.

If the defender doesn't have to be square to get a charge call, this means it's now legal to not face the offense and get that same call.

Again, I disagree.

What you've been annoyingly whining about is the fact that Harden gets so many calls and so many trips to the line.

The problem with this argument is that you are misplacing blame.

You're blaming the rules of the game when you should be blaming the SORRY ASS officials calling it.

It's their fault through and through. They are NOT getting "open looks", and regularly fail:

Referee 101:

Bottom line:

The rules of the game are perfect in every way (save one tweak I'd make).

It's the people administering them that are not.

 

Why would you want hand-checking back? Move your feet! Hand-checking is weak in my opinion. I get hand-checked all the time in my rec league because people struggle to stay in front of me... it's a bail out for those that can't slide defensively. I know it used to be that way, but we also didn't use to have a 3pt line. Good defenders don't have to resort to using their hands.

 

By liking his post you subscribed to his notion that the definition of legal guarding position should be changed. I think that's crazy talk. Sorry if I was a bit crass. bit

You're right, that motherfucker is the worst flopper in NBA history.

But all of us have to understand it's not the rules of the game that's causing the foul calls and NON travel calls on his bullshit step back...

It's the officials fault.

Every time he's rewarded for Flop...

It's the officials fault.

Every time he takes 4 steps on his step back jumper...

It's the officials fault.

Every time he travels and uses his off arm while doing that "Euro-step"...

It's the officials FUCKING fault!!!

Stop blaming the rules of our amazing game and place blame SQUARELY on the backs of these morons officiating it.

THEY SUCK.

 

He used to get COOKED in the city league and now he wants to change the rules... Lol

 

Exactly.

 

Nah. The issue of legal guarding position didn’t come up until later. The initial post just said he felt the rules give too much advantage to the offensive player. I don’t think that’s crazy talk. Removing the ability to hand check did give the offensive player a huge advantage, one which Harden is more than willing to twist to even greater advantage by cheating.

 

I can accept this to an extent. I mean I don't know if the rule's are "perfect", the nba rules at least change almost every year. You seem really genuinely angry that I'd dare to question you and it makes me laugh every time you post. Like seriously? You're going to kill my posts, oh the humanity...
Maybe it's more the officials than the rules, I can buy into that.
Also I enjoyed when a defender would hand-check me, it made it really easy to know where they were at. Playing point you have to keep your head up, if your defender wants to make it really easy to know what their doing with their hands while you don't even look at them than that's OK with me.

No idea why you're trying to make this some personal thing, I don't know you, this is a basketball discussion forum. You don't know me, but whatever makes you happy. If you can't stand it that much just ignore me. I'm not going to stop having opinions on a sport I've loved most of my life just because you don't like my opinions on it.
If it is indeed just the ref's and nothing else how do you feel about adding another ref to each crew, and that they get rid of some of "old" ref's that seem to have vendetta's for and against certain players.
Whether it's the rules or the refs, it's freaking frustrating to watch how NBA games get called.

 

Lowry and DeRozan are like Dame and CJ. They disappears when it matters.

 

People talked about how Playoffs Rondo was a real thing. Well, so is Playoffs Lowry. It's in full force right now.

 

I thought Toronto would find a way to lose this series, but I thought it would be in 6-7 games, not like this.