I guess we will see. Either way it’s not gonna get back the damage that was done which is sad. Trust me I love the gorge and trails surrounding as well. When I watched the news I was upset thinking that place would be completely fucked after. As well as feeling sympathy for the people being interviewed scared losing their homes.
Yes, you've that done many times. I think it's because I think Trump is an idiot. Labeling you? I like The Contrarian. This is the 97th post in this thread. Not really a start. Could be a middle or an end. Your statement about the military and those who choose to serve was wrong and rude. Why? I like myself. You don't have any guns do you? Thanks I'm bias against all humans.
I’m not saying you are unreasonable. It just adds up with the time you grew up in I guess if you see what I’m saying. I don’t know how else to explain it. My proposal was for him to get a year in juvenile center, it won’t be fun and he can still be disciplined. I’m just saying whatever he will earn in 10 years won’t make much of a dent in the damage done so I don’t know what fixes that ever.
You’re not funny. You don’t know me. You clearly have bias on this forum. You used to be really cool to me until you dropped a ban on me you still think is a legit reason. It never was but keep telling yourself that. You let others get away with personally insulting me yet you beg people to not personally insult on the forum which I find funny because you act like you give a shit but when somebody you don’t like is getting attacked you’re all in and you say “oh well it’s a gray area. They didn’t out right insult you”. Okay yeah but you know what they are doing. I don’t care anymore dude I’m over trying to constantly be cool with you again. It’s obvious you hold grudges for whatever reason. Didn’t even want me here in the first place. I have proved you wrong, I haven’t personally insulted anybody since I have came back months ago. Yet you still wanna act a certain way towards me. You do you.
How many kids that do a year in juvenile detention end up graduating from high school? How many go on to graduate from college? To me, a year in juvenile detention could end up doing more harm than good, both to the kid and to the victims. I'm just not seeing the benefit. He could come out of juvenile bitter and resentful. How does that help anyone? Let him do his community service and pay back what he can. Let him see the full impact of his actions and meet the people he harmed. Let them meet him and see that he is doing his best to make up for his poor decision. Locking him away somewhere isn't really helping anyone. BNM
Maybe there are negatives to both situations. I don’t know. He could still do some online classes while there to make up for freshman year credits. He could come out of both scenarios bitter and resentful. I think the 10 year plan will have more of a lasting affect of that though. That’s just me though. I think everybody’s opinions are clear on this. A few of us think it’s too much. A few think it’s just right. Nobody is right. And honestly all of us probably won’t keep up with how this kid is doing within these next 10 years
so what....it's a forum of opinions...you have plenty of those yourself as do we all....and Sly is funny
The judge came down with a pretty fair ruling considering the scope of the damage and this is still a discussion? Ok then.
It should be. Do you think female teachers should be imprisoned for having sex with a 15 year old boy? It so, how do you square your apparent belief that a 15 year old boy is a child with a 37 million dollar fine against an equivalent kid?
He was kept in the juvenile system so he will not have a felony conviction as an adult. That is more important than the money. In cases like this it's important to fine the person the costs incurred rather than what they claim they can afford to pay. Otherwise in future cases you will have individuals and businesses shedding and hiding assets to limit the judgement against them.
That's basically what they are doing. 25% of his earnings for 10 years. Make your payments, don't get arrested again and all is forgiven. That will come a lot closer to $25 thousand than the $37 million in damages he caused to others. BNM
It's actually not a fine (like a traffic ticket), it's repayment of the damages he caused. And he won't come close to paying back one million, let alone multiple millions. He's 15. Does he even have a job? If he does, he's likely making minimum wage working 8 - 10 hours a week as a full time high school student. At 25% of his earnings that comes to about $25/week. Hardly an onerous amount, even for a 15-year old. If I underestimate his current earnings and he actually makes more, he can afford to pay back more. Everyone gets all hung up on the $37 million amount. That's not the amount he will pay, not even close, that's the amount of the damage he caused. Not the same thing. BNM
15-year-olds often make poor decisions. No doubt. Still, they need to be held responsible for the consequences of their actions. But often not to the same degree as adults. Teachers are adults, so they are held to a higher standard, and teachers to a higher standard still. This is intuitive. A 15-year-old's ability to make decisions for which he should be held accountable doesn't make him any less worthy of protection from predatory behavior from adults, and doesn't make the adult's choice to exploit her position/influence/access any less reprehensible. I am honestly baffled how anyone can think that holding teenagers accountable for criminal behavior somehow runs counter to criminalizing adults having sex with minors.
