Olshey interview with Jaynes

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  1. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Paul George?

    Did PA sign off on this?

    I don't get it. We aren't one average vet player away from suddenly beating the Pelicans. They outclassed us so thoroughly, we didn't look like we belonged. We need a star. Or two. And we aren't getting that by trading our pick/scrubs.
     
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    I'd trade Turner for him.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    No idea why NY would do that and take on an extra year of salary, but Kanter would just take away minutes from Zach. Why do we want that?
     
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    Why do you think one series becomes automatically the same outcome if played again? The series could be played again and I bet the results would be different.
     
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    Maybe, but more realistically if they played another team the results probably would’ve been different. Not every team is perfectly built like NO to stop our strengths. I know we could’ve beaten OKC, Minny, and SA.
     
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    They probably wouldn't but maybe they would think he was a better fit? As for Collins, what if we traded him and Harkless and Leonard and a draft pick for Otto Porter? (I actually don't think I would want to be stuck with two lumbering guys like Nurkic and Kanter in today's NBA.)
     
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    no way
     
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    I think Bones-Jones had some trades where we get Porter. Is there any way to do that without giving up Collins? I don't really see many attainable guys who could significantly help us.
     
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    So if the Pelicans series provided a real clear lens of what we need to compete, why is Stotts still here? Ball movement is so important in the playoffs, yet we were last in assists.

    I cant wait until Olshey the Clown is fired
     
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    The one year we could accept lopsided trades was when Dame and CJ were still on their rookie deals. Same with any thoughts on having worthwhile cap space. That was a very small window that won't open again as long as Dame and CJ are on the team.

    We are however one of the only teams that can take on a bad contract via the Trade Exception in a "lopsided trade" despite being over the cap. Spending as much as we want this summer by using the trade exceptions, draft picks, tax-MLE, min contracts, and/or re-signing our 4 free agents and we can use all of those options, which is pretty flexible. If they try to avoid the tax next year then they can't really use any of those options. Last year for example they didn't use their tax-MLE because they were trying to stay under the tax line. However that could have brought a good player in that would've helped if they didn't care about the tax, like Tyreke Evans. I know it sounds completely backwards but there is actually more flexibility for teams being above the luxury tax than below it. Of course being below the salary cap is the best option but there is no possible way to accomplish that.
     
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    In the end we'll sign Chris Bosh for peanuts and gamble on his health
     
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    Problem with that idea is that I don't see anyway the Wiz move Porter unless it's a blow me away type deal. Oubre would be a more realistic target.
     
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    Oubre would fit into that Plumlee/Nets example Neil kept bringing up in his interview with Jaynes. I believe he has to get paid soon, similar to Plumlee when we traded for him. I’d give our pick for Oubre.
     
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    Nice thing about Oubre is he is still only 22 years old so he's not much older and about the same age as some of the prospects we might go after but with a few years of NBA experience. We could use the smaller trade exception plus the pick to acquire him.
     
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    Are you talking about Crabbe? We have no other shooters on this current team besides Dame and CJ, and I doubt they will "pay" to get rid of them. There is no doubt in my mind that they will at least try to bring in more veteran shooting. They tried last last summer with George and Melo.
     
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    I wonder what Washington’s plan is. Oubre is in line to get paid next summer. He’s a starting caliber wing, but they already have Porter, who while overpaid, is still a superior player. Wizards are already in the tax. Are they really going to commit to matching on Oubre, because there definitely will be another team out there ready to pony up for a young wing. Or will they try and trade Porter? I can’t see them keeping both.
     
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    I really like the idea of Blake Griffin that someone else brought up. As a #1 option, no. As a #2 or #3 option with Damian, CJ and Nurk? I love it. He's a great passer. He still plays most of his games. It's a great upgrade for peanuts. It's Paul's money, not mine. We'll be over the cap anyways. I like it very much.
     
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    Exactly - already over the cap with or without him, so might as well get him! (As long as you're not giving up Dame/CJ/Nurk.) Bonus is that the trade would NEED to include Turner in order for the financials to work.
     
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    No, I'm talking about the million bucks Paul Allen gave to that gun control bill in Washington. Just a joke.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    A collective WHOOSH from the entire forum.

    Not sure is that says more about us, or about you. Probably us.

    BNM
     
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