Event 2018 NBA Finals, Warriors vs Cavaliers.

Yes it does. If there is a gather & continuous motion leading to a shot then the gather IS the beginning of the shooting motion. "Shooting motion" determines whether or not a shooting foul will be granted. Durant would certainly get a shooting foul if fouled in either frame I posted. So shooting motion had begun.

 

Here is a similar call. Similar in that a charge was overturned to a blocking foul. Not at all similar in terms of how well the defensive player was set. How this one was ruled a block I don't know.



Here Durant is about to shoot the ball. Lebron is still not done sliding & turning into his path. Contact occurs shoulder to chest at the pink. Easy call.

 

Everyone complaining about the refs, pretend tough man antics, Green being an ass, Smith being a dumb fuck. Ya, I'm good

 

Steve Javie disagrees.

 

The worst ref in history? Ok

 

If it's so easy why did it appear to be a clear charge per Steve Javie and the ABC announcers? No, it was far from an easy call.

Also, a defender can be moving when he's hit and it can still be a charge. Depends on whether the defender is in position or not.

 

You're misinformed.

 

No, just overstating.

 

LeBron is already in position..

 

I can't read Javie's mind. But I can read the NBA rules which state that the defensive player must be in position at the time shooting motion begins. Further, the rules state that for a driving player, shooting motion begins at gather. I can see with my eyes that Lebron was not remotely in position at the time Durant gathered the ball, nor at the time he began raising the ball up, nor at the time the ball was at KD's chest level. He was not even in position the moment Durant was about to release the ball.

The fact that people disagree about a sports call does not prove it's a close call. People are biased when it comes to sports. Millions of people think the earth is flat. But that's not a close call. They go to Javie quickly after the play occurred. I doubt he had a chance to see all the angles in slow motion. Also, in my experience, Javie tends to agree with the call on the floor - like he does not want to make the NBA look bad.

But he was not in position at the time shooting motion began as the images I posted show.

 

Nope. I have zero problem with the charge call, but on slo mo, he was sliding and not in a legal guarding position

 

If I were a Cleveland fan I'd be a little peeved at this:

https://sports.yahoo.com/nba-admits...-violation-final-moment-game-1-033010216.html

 

Steve Javie was a horrible ref and largely responsible for the biased officiating the NBA is known for. Why are we suddenly lending credence to his opinion over controversial calls just because ABC decided to anoint him the studio guru?

 

This is how I saw it as well.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...d-two-missed-infractions-final-seconds-game-1
The referees also reviewed whether James was in a legal guarding position, which is an additional reviewable matter for this replay trigger. Replay showed James was not in a legal guarding position because he was turning his body and moving into Durant when contact occurred. Thus the initial call on the floor was overturned and James was assessed a blocking foul."

 

LeBron James' Infamous Finals Game 1 Suit with Shorts Cost More Than $45,000

 

He already was, making the sliding irrelevant.

 

LeBron was robbed. I decided that I'm for Cleveland.

 

he was robbed twice...once by a team mate

 

Ya, disagree