The Sebastian Telfair thread

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  1. WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE

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    good points CB, anywhere away from NY is a good fit for him. I say one more team should take a chance on him, if htat doesn't work, just go to Europe. If guys like Khalid El-Amin and Trajan Langdon can be stars in Europe than so can Telfair. Him and his brother working together on the same team would be awesome for this kid. Telfair's brother seems like he's an incredible influence on him and you could see it in Bassy's eyes when he was over there watching his bro in that documentary. I would honestly love to see him go to Europe, I don't really like him as a player but he's acting immature and I think his older bro would push him to his limits and he could have a great career in Europe. Also, from what I understand, there are no speed limits in Europe...
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE @ Apr 23 2007, 12:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Also, from what I understand, there are no speed limits in Europe...</div>
    :HAHAHA: The big question is what are their rules on carrying loaded guns?
     
  3. CelticBalla32

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    http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/ce...s/celtics_blog/

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The Boston Globe has learned that the Celtics will sever ties with guard Sebastian Telfair after one season with the team, according to team managing partner Wyc Grousbeck, who sent an email to Globe reporters with the news.

    "I wanted to let you know that we have removed Sebastian?s nameplate from his locker in Waltham. The facts and circumstances of his case have not been determined but he does not have a Celtics locker and we do not anticipate that he will," Grousbeck wrote in the email.</div>
    OK well they are serious about this "code of conduct" crap they've been talking about for the last year and a half. However, if this were a better player, they would kick that conduct policy to the curb. Example, Tony Allen. But I seriously hope that they don't just waive Bassy, I hope they hold on to him and try and include his contract (around $2.5M) in a deal.
     
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    That sucks for Telfair he had so much potential and let his attitude get in the way.
     
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    Hopefully we can get something for him. I wish him the best. If he can keep his nose clean hopefully we can see him revive something of what he could have been and succeed in the NBA.
     
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    Telfair is not good at all, he needs to get better, its official yaa they released him, but he turns the ball over too much, I hope he finds a good home
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mikeballa2001 @ Apr 24 2007, 06:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Telfair is not good at all, he needs to get better, its official yaa they released him, but he turns the ball over too much, I hope he finds a good home</div>
    We haven't officially released him yet, and Bassy doesn't turn the ball over all that much, to be honest with you.
     
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    Good, I'm sure the official announcement will come out in a few days. Telfair should have just gone to college, he would have matured both on the court and off the court. In high school he was the #1 option all the time, he goes straight from that to being a rookie in the big time. I think he would have gained a lot from going to college learning point guard skills and refining his game. CB32 has brought this up a number of times, him being close to NY is probably the worst thing that could have happened to him. He just simply looks lost half the time he's on the court. His decision making is terrible, I think another team might take a chance on him but if not he should have a good career in Europe.
     
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    Celtics severing ties with Telfair April 24, 2007AP - Apr 24, 2:21 pm EDTMore Photos BOSTON (AP) -- The Boston Celtics are severing ties with guard Sebastian Telfair days after he was arrested in the New York area and charged with carrying a loaded gun in his car. Team managing partner Wyc Grousbeck said Telfair, the 13th pick in the 2004 draft and coming off a disappointing first season with the Celtics, would not be back with the team. Telfair pleaded not guilty to a charge of felony second-degree possession of a weapon, and was released Friday on $7,500 bail. "The facts and circumstances of his case have not been determined, but he does not have a Celtics locker and we do not anticipate that he will," Grousbeck said in an e-mail Tuesday. He did not say how the team would handle the remaining season on Telfair's contract. Telfair's attorney, Ed Hayes, told The Associated Press the Celtics are rushing to judgment. ADVERTISEMENT "It always bothers me when you punish a guy so severely before there's been a finding of fact. I think that's wrong whether it happens in Durham (N.C) or in Boston," Hayes said, referring to the Duke lacrosse rape case. Hayes said Telfair supports 17 relatives on his NBA salary since being drafted out of high school in Brooklyn, N.Y. "He's come so far and done so well, I don't think you have to throw him overboard," Hayes said. The 21-year-old guard was arrested early Friday in Yonkers, N.Y. Police said he was speeding and found a loaded handgun under a seat in his SUV. Telfair did not have a valid license, and police said he and his passenger told them they knew nothing of the gun. Grousbeck said players had been explicitly warned to obey the team and league gun prohibition, as well as state laws. Hayes said the gun was registered to Telfair's girlfriend, who he said was Telfair's common law wife, and that Telfair was borrowing the SUV she normally uses. While with Portland in February 2006, Telfair was questioned after a handgun registered to his girlfriend was found in his pillowcase aboard the team's plane at Hanscom Field in Bedford, outside of Boston. The Trail Blazers later fined Telfair and suspended him for two days. Last October, police questioned Telfair about the shooting of rapper Fabolous after a $50,000 necklace was stolen from Telfair at the same club the night Fabolous was shot. Telfair said he wasn't there at the time of the shooting. The Celtics acquired Telfair from Portland last June 28 on the day of the NBA draft. As part of the five-player deal, Portland received Randy Foye of Villanova, whom the Celtics had taken with the No. 7 pick. Boston hoped Telfair would become its regular point guard, but he struggled and started just 30 of the 78 games he played. He averaged 20.2 minutes, 6.1 points and 2.8 assists per game.The Boston Globe has learned that the Celtics will sever ties with guard Sebastian Telfair after one season with the team, according to team managing partner Wyc Grousbeck, who sent an email to Globe reporters Peter May and Shira Springer with the news. "I wanted to let you know that we have removed Sebastian's nameplate from his locker in Waltham. The facts and circumstances of his case have not been determined but he does not have a Celtics locker and we do not anticipate that he will," Grousbeck wrote in the email. Boston Globe
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The Boston Globe has learned that the Celtics will sever ties with guard Sebastian Telfair after one season with the team, according to team managing partner Wyc Grousbeck, who sent an email to Globe reporters Peter May and Shira Springer with the news. "I wanted to let you know that we have removed Sebastian's nameplate from his locker in Waltham. The facts and circumstances of his case have not been determined but he does not have a Celtics locker and we do not anticipate that he will," Grousbeck wrote in the email. Boston Globe</div>did you read the first post? [​IMG]
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE @ Apr 24 2007, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Telfair should have just gone to college</div>
    That's tough though. He really needed to take care of his family, and his big decision came after somebody was murdered in their apartment building. So, it's easy for us to say "Telfair should have went to college," but it's much deeper than his basketball career.

    And mikeballa, yes, I've seen all that. But again, we have not officially waived him, like you said. There are reports stating our intentions to do so, but it hasn't become official yet.

    My take: we'd shouldn't waive him just yet. His $2.5M contract could make or break a deal for us, I think we should try and include him in a deal before we just waive him. If we can't do that, then get rid of him in a month or two, but no yet.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>That's tough though. He really needed to take care of his family, and his big decision came after somebody was murdered in their apartment building. So, it's easy for us to say "Telfair should have went to college," but it's much deeper than his basketball career</div>Yeah that is tough but look at him now. He may have made millions but his dream has been pretty much squashed, he now has felony gun charges against him, and he could be out of the league. He's been an embarresment at best so far in the NBA. And I mean c'mon, if he went to college, you're going to tell me his family wouldn't have gotten money from boosters at a Kentucky or a Louisville? I think he would have been fine going to college and his career would have been better off.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE @ Apr 24 2007, 07:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah that is tough but look at him now. He may have made millions but his dream has been pretty much squashed, he now has felony gun charges against him, and he could be out of the league. He's been an embarresment at best so far in the NBA. And I mean c'mon, if he went to college, you're going to tell me his family wouldn't have gotten money from boosters at a Kentucky or a Louisville? I think he would have been fine going to college and his career would have been better off.</div>
    His family was in dyer need of a move and financial stability. I don't know if a booster at Louisville would have covered all of that without Telfair getting in trouble for taking money like that. They'd obviously know how they got the money and were able to move if that happened.
     
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    Well if they cut him it sure helps to solve some rotation issues. I hope they don't just let him go without trying to get atleast something in return.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DRob-50-Forever @ Apr 24 2007, 11:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well if they cut him it sure helps to solve some rotation issues. I hope they don't just let him go without trying to get atleast something in return.</div>
    I agree about the fact that it would be dumb to just waive him without trying to package him in a trade first, but I don't think this really helps our rotation issues. When healthy, Bassy would have been our 11th or 12th man next year for insurance at the point guard spot. But, this does mean that we most certainly have to bring in another point guard one way or another. I hope it's a veteran.
     
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    Of course the Celtics would do something stupid like this. :dunno: What are they doing making sure they suck next season also to tank? [​IMG]
     
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    WOW Serge you really hit the nail on the head this time. Thats EXACTLY what they're doing. Explain how its a stupid move, because it really isn't.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Apr 24 2007, 09:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But, this does mean that we most certainly have to bring in another point guard one way or another. I hope it's a veteran.</div>I think Steve Blake would be a nice fit.
     
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    Do you guys suspect something else going on behind the scenes? I just have a hard time believing he would get released over something like this....I think their are other things that happened that we have no idea about.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Do you guys suspect something else going on behind the scenes? I just have a hard time believing he would get released over something like this....I think their are other things that happened that we have no idea about.</div>Yeah I was thinking about this too. Clearly he has some attitude issues and it's probably been going on all season. He got frustrated after being demoted to a deserved benching. From what I've seen Bassy just expected to flourish here, the first few days he was in Boston he had the balls to ask to use Cedric Maxwell's number #31. Maxwell, who was once MVP of the NBA finals obviously denied that. I bet there were some other things Bassy pulled behind the scenes that we will never know about, but this incident clearly put him over the edge. I think in the end Boston just figured why the hell do we need a third string point guard creating negative publicity for our organization? After the Tony Allen incident The Celtics have no patience for these kinds of things.
     

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