Notice 3 Reasons the Trail Blazers Should Trade the No. 24 Pick

dviss1 · Jun 8, 2018

HCP said: ↑

Man, I hate this time of year. All these wack ass Avatars being created on random ass thoughts that come to people's minds about LeBron going to LA. Wish we could fast forward to mid September when he signs with the Blazers.
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FTFY BRUH

Sarni · Jun 8, 2018

I don’t really see the attraction of moving the pick along with a bad contract to save some money.

Lakers moving Russell along with Mozgov last year made sense because they were going to need cap space this year to sign free agents. Raptors getting rid of Carroll’s deal made sense because they wanted to sign Ibaka. We wouldn’t have any cap space even if both Turner and Leonard left and we would only ever be able to get rid of one with no. 24 (probably Leonard, nobody is taking Turner’s deal for a late pick).

I also dislike the idea of getting ‘veterans’ for that pick. We won’t get anyone good for a no. 24 and our window to succeed isn’t now anyway, it’s at least 2-3 years away if anything. If we get one of those average 33-year old journeymen they won’t help.

BonesJones · Jun 8, 2018

Sarni said: ↑

I don’t really see the attraction of moving the pick along with a bad contract to save some money.

Lakers moving Russell along with Mozgov last year made sense because they were going to need cap space this year to sign free agents. Raptors getting rid of Carroll’s deal made sense because they wanted to sign Ibaka. We wouldn’t have any cap space even if both Turner and Leonard left and we would only ever be able to get rid of one with no. 24 (probably Leonard, nobody is taking Turner’s deal for a late pick).

I also dislike the idea of getting ‘veterans’ for that pick. We won’t get anyone good for a no. 24 and our window to succeed isn’t now anyway, it’s at least 2-3 years away if anything. If we get one of those average 33-year old journeymen they won’t help.
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Exactly.

riverman · Jun 9, 2018

Sarni said: ↑

. If we get one of those average 33-year old journeymen they won’t help.
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Lebron is 33...I beg to differ

Sarni · Jun 9, 2018

riverman said: ↑

Lebron is 33...I beg to differ
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He is a little better than Courtney Lee or Kosta Koufos though.

BonesJones · Jun 9, 2018

riverman said: ↑

Lebron is 33...I beg to differ
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The part that said "average" and "journyman"... how did you not see that?

riverman · Jun 9, 2018

BonesJones said: ↑

The part that said "average" and "journyman"... how did you not see that?
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The part that said 33 is over the hill...how did you not see that?

riverman · Jun 9, 2018

Sarni said: ↑

He is a little better than Courtney Lee or Kosta Koufos though.
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and both these guys are better than Jake Layman....we've already been the youngest team on the block for a long time now..

Phatguysrule · Jun 9, 2018

Where was Jordan Bell picked? Oh yeah 38.

There are guys taken late every year who can make an impact right now. They are usually passed on by teams looking for more potential.

I don't care what they do with the pick as long as we get better.

riverman · Jun 9, 2018

Phatguysrule said: ↑

Where was Jordan Bell picked? Oh yeah 38.

There are guys taken late every year who can make an impact right now. They are usually passed on by teams looking for more potential.

I don't care what they do with the pick as long as we get better.
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I wanted Bell in the last draft really badly.....I watched him play for the Ducks and he was the most NBA ready player on the court every game.

Blazer4ever · Jun 9, 2018

BigGameDamian said: ↑

https://www.blazersedge.com/platfor.../2018-nba-draft-trades-portland-trail-blazers

The No. 24 overall selection isn’t going to be coveted by other teams, but dealing it could serve a higher purpose for the Blazers.

The Portland Trail Blazers own the No. 24 overall selection in the NBA Draft. Picking No. 24 isn’t ideal for Portland: it’s not in a range that will likely land an immediate-impact player, and it’s not valuable enough on its own to deal for a meaty haul. Trading the pick could help the team’s purpose of competing in the NBA Playoffs, as recently stated by President of Basketball Operations Neil Olshey. Here are three reasons that option would work well for Portland.

No. 24 Won’t Likely Land a Player of Need
The Blazers’ pre-draft workouts have shone a light on the kinds of players that will be available around pick 24. They’re not players the Blazers really need. The first workout brought (undersized) guards Aaron Holiday and Jalen Brunson; the second workout brought (undersized) guards Bruce Brown, Donte DiVincenzo, and Jacob Evans. Portland’s own undersized guards have prompted trade proposals, with their offense being not enough to cover their deficiencies.

While Portland has also worked out wings like Gary Trent Jr., Melvin Frazier, and Keita Bates-Diop, there’s a premium on that position that could boost late-first-round talent into the late-teens or early-20s. Fan-favorite Chandler Hutchison has possible promises from both the Chicago Bulls (No. 22) and Indiana Pacers (No. 23).

Some of the guards Portland has worked out are defense-first, like Brown and Evans, but Wade Baldwin IV is a cheaper alternative and lauded for his defense already. If they can’t get a player they need, one to help alongside Lillard and CJ McCollum, whom they seem committed to no matter what, why bring on more guaranteed salary?

In Search of Veterans
Portland could take a rookie at No. 24, stash them on the bench, and try to ration out playing time when available. But according to Neil Olshey, the Blazers are making playoff impact a focus:

“I think our pick will have value both ways whether we select and add another young player we think can eventually grow and contribute to the organization, or whether we use that piece as an asset to go acquire a veteran player with an established body of work that can step into a playoff team and contribute in April.”
While that might be just all talk after a disappointing finish in the 2018 playoffs, Olshey could set the tone for that mindset by opting for a veteran instead of another rookie to be forgotten about (Caleb Swanigan says hi!). Portland lacks the experienced, well-traveled veteran often featured on contending teams. 2015-16, the year of Chris Kaman, was the last time the Blazers hosted a player of that criteria. The last time the Blazers made noise, players like Kaman, Steve Blake, Dorell Wright, Earl Watson, and Mo Williams graced their roster.

This is undoubtedly Damian Lillard’s team, but the impact of a veteran can’t be undersold. Lillard is directly in his prime; this is the time to go all-in if there’s ever been one. (He’s coming off an All-NBA First Team selection for crying out loud). A veteran who has gone through multiple ups and downs could make an impact in April. The same cannot be said for a rookie just learning his place.

Using the No. 24 Pick as an Asset
No. 24 overall won’t get teams licking their chops for a potential deal. It’s outside of the lottery, where the franchise players often lay. With this draft class, teams could get a prospect they like in the second round instead of the late first. Trading the pick straight-up wouldn’t lead to a bounty, but pairing it could be the sweetener needed to make an otherwise-marginal deal go through.

Portland has contracts they should actively look to move: Evan Turner (two years, about $36.4 million left), Meyers Leonard (two years, about $21.8 million left), and, depending how you feel about his consistency issues, Maurice Harkless (two years, about $22.3 million left). Portland likely can’t deal any of these players straight-up, but the No. 24 pick could make teams ponder if paying for an extra contract is worth an extra first-round choice.

There’s also the outside chance of a major shakeup trade into which Portland could throw in their No. 24 pick for an immediate-impact, proven player. Check out this trade proposed by our own Dan Marang:

We all know the caveats with any ESPN Trade Machine proposal, especially multi-team deals, but if No. 24 will facilitate such a trade, wouldn’t it be worth setting Portland on a better course?

Draft picks are one of the most cost-efficient and valuable assets in the modern NBA. Giving them up is hard. But Portland’s supporting cast can’t be subpar if the franchise wants to contend during Lillard’s prime. Progress often requires making hard choices. If this is one of those time, the Blazers have to be open to it.
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How is this trade idea anyhing but awful? I'm sorry but this does not deserve a thread

tykendo · Jun 9, 2018

BigGameDamian said: ↑

https://www.blazersedge.com/platfor.../2018-nba-draft-trades-portland-trail-blazers

The No. 24 overall selection isn’t going to be coveted by other teams, but dealing it could serve a higher purpose for the Blazers.

The Portland Trail Blazers own the No. 24 overall selection in the NBA Draft. Picking No. 24 isn’t ideal for Portland: it’s not in a range that will likely land an immediate-impact player, and it’s not valuable enough on its own to deal for a meaty haul. Trading the pick could help the team’s purpose of competing in the NBA Playoffs, as recently stated by President of Basketball Operations Neil Olshey. Here are three reasons that option would work well for Portland.

No. 24 Won’t Likely Land a Player of Need
The Blazers’ pre-draft workouts have shone a light on the kinds of players that will be available around pick 24. They’re not players the Blazers really need. The first workout brought (undersized) guards Aaron Holiday and Jalen Brunson; the second workout brought (undersized) guards Bruce Brown, Donte DiVincenzo, and Jacob Evans. Portland’s own undersized guards have prompted trade proposals, with their offense being not enough to cover their deficiencies.

While Portland has also worked out wings like Gary Trent Jr., Melvin Frazier, and Keita Bates-Diop, there’s a premium on that position that could boost late-first-round talent into the late-teens or early-20s. Fan-favorite Chandler Hutchison has possible promises from both the Chicago Bulls (No. 22) and Indiana Pacers (No. 23).

Some of the guards Portland has worked out are defense-first, like Brown and Evans, but Wade Baldwin IV is a cheaper alternative and lauded for his defense already. If they can’t get a player they need, one to help alongside Lillard and CJ McCollum, whom they seem committed to no matter what, why bring on more guaranteed salary?

In Search of Veterans
Portland could take a rookie at No. 24, stash them on the bench, and try to ration out playing time when available. But according to Neil Olshey, the Blazers are making playoff impact a focus:

“I think our pick will have value both ways whether we select and add another young player we think can eventually grow and contribute to the organization, or whether we use that piece as an asset to go acquire a veteran player with an established body of work that can step into a playoff team and contribute in April.”
While that might be just all talk after a disappointing finish in the 2018 playoffs, Olshey could set the tone for that mindset by opting for a veteran instead of another rookie to be forgotten about (Caleb Swanigan says hi!). Portland lacks the experienced, well-traveled veteran often featured on contending teams. 2015-16, the year of Chris Kaman, was the last time the Blazers hosted a player of that criteria. The last time the Blazers made noise, players like Kaman, Steve Blake, Dorell Wright, Earl Watson, and Mo Williams graced their roster.

This is undoubtedly Damian Lillard’s team, but the impact of a veteran can’t be undersold. Lillard is directly in his prime; this is the time to go all-in if there’s ever been one. (He’s coming off an All-NBA First Team selection for crying out loud). A veteran who has gone through multiple ups and downs could make an impact in April. The same cannot be said for a rookie just learning his place.

Using the No. 24 Pick as an Asset
No. 24 overall won’t get teams licking their chops for a potential deal. It’s outside of the lottery, where the franchise players often lay. With this draft class, teams could get a prospect they like in the second round instead of the late first. Trading the pick straight-up wouldn’t lead to a bounty, but pairing it could be the sweetener needed to make an otherwise-marginal deal go through.

Portland has contracts they should actively look to move: Evan Turner (two years, about $36.4 million left), Meyers Leonard (two years, about $21.8 million left), and, depending how you feel about his consistency issues, Maurice Harkless (two years, about $22.3 million left). Portland likely can’t deal any of these players straight-up, but the No. 24 pick could make teams ponder if paying for an extra contract is worth an extra first-round choice.

There’s also the outside chance of a major shakeup trade into which Portland could throw in their No. 24 pick for an immediate-impact, proven player. Check out this trade proposed by our own Dan Marang:

We all know the caveats with any ESPN Trade Machine proposal, especially multi-team deals, but if No. 24 will facilitate such a trade, wouldn’t it be worth setting Portland on a better course?

Draft picks are one of the most cost-efficient and valuable assets in the modern NBA. Giving them up is hard. But Portland’s supporting cast can’t be subpar if the franchise wants to contend during Lillard’s prime. Progress often requires making hard choices. If this is one of those time, the Blazers have to be open to it.
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That trade has no chance. Why would Milwaukee trade quality for that band of merry misfits? Nice post by Big Game though.

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