OT The Government Has No Plan for Reuniting the Immigrant Families It Is Tearing Apart

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  1. oldfisherman

    oldfisherman Unicorn Wrangler

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    Of course not, that would be silly. They had no idea their kids would be taken away.

    The families are being used as pawns by some group in our country. Separating the kids was not part of their plan.

    I believe our govt. knows who is behind this plan, and is "throwing the book" at these innocent pawns to make it more difficult for this to happen again.

    I feel sorry for the families. The are now caught between to groups fighting for control.
     
  2. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    But people have been crossing the southern border for decades. If it was all a conspiracy, wouldn't it have leaked out by now?

    What's wrong with the Occam's Razor answer, which is they are coming here to seek a better life?

    barfo
     
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  3. oldfisherman

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    People seeking asylum go out of their way to keep it a secret. And then they try to hide in their new country.

    They do no make it a media event days before reaching the country they are trying to go to. The fact it was reported so far in advance, and that they were seeking asylum reeks of a consparicy.

    They were probably told/promised if they went along with this large group, they would have a better life.
     
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    The whole wall and twitter bashing from Trump to the president of Mexico brought the attention to the border..Trump brought the tension to our Mexican relationship .he talks about it constantly, don't know why you'd think some refugees were politicians in disguise...he should go after these M13 assholes but they're already here. Theyre not walking across Mexico with kids and a few possessions.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Huh? Are you saying that is what people generally do, or that's what they should do, or that's what some specific people have done?

    People seeking asylum fill out a government form requesting asylum. It isn't secret.

    I think you are conflating two different issues. There was a group that traveled together through Mexico a few weeks back and got some press coverage. As I recall, very few of those people actually reached our border.

    I think it is generally understood that the "quality of life" in the US tends to be higher than in, e.g., Guatemala. I don't think you need a conspiracy to spread that word.

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    I suspect the people that want the boarder agents tied up do know the law, probably even recruit the people and send them where they do the most good.
     
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    Good question! How do these people benefit using their children like this?
     
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    Did this conspiracy form a while back, with the assumption that Trump would change the rules, or was the conspiracy set up immediately upon the new rules being put in place?

    Or maybe it's just a bunch of poor people trying to find a better life.

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    They don't, which is what makes your conspiracy theory so stupid.

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    The US has three holding facilities in Texas with a fourth on the way. It costs approximately 600 dollars a day to keep on immigrant child. -Public radio
     
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    Obviously a woman being raped, beaten, threatened with death by her husband deserves no compassion, after all, she married him. And it's probably her fault. She made him beat her. And while Trump might rail against gangs, by which he means all brown people, no one should be able to escape them.

    I ask again, were fugitive slaves wrong? They knew the risk of running away to themselves and their children. Were those who violated the law to help them wrong? Was it right to return captured slaves to master to be beaten, killed, have their children sold away? That was the law. Were those who hid Jews in Nazi occupied Europe wrong? They knew the risk of violating the law. Was it right to send them to concentration camps? That was the law. Please answer.

    Last night it was announced the government of the United States of America has built three concentration camps for toddlers and infants in secret locations. Neither media, nor elected representatives, nor clergy, nor American Red Cross, is allowed to see them or even know where they are.

    Families made the difficult trek to the United States of America seeking safety and a better life, not due to some wacked out conspiracy, but like people have for more than two hundred years. Trump decided, and yes this is Trump administration, not some law, to take away their children and deport them. They go back to the hell they tried to escape but without their children. No one knows what is going to happen to these children.

    Last night it was also reported that Trump & the White House are pleased with the furor over ripping babies and children from their families. They think it looks tough, their base will love it and will elect Republicans in November.

    Putting babies in hidden concentration camps in hopes of electing Republicans.

    And people here defend it.

    I can only quote.

     
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    7 billion people on Earth. How many are victims of domestic violence?

    Those people should be allowed to travel all over the world through 140 other nations that signed the refugee convention at Geneva of 1951 and all come here and claim asylum?
     
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    That's the genius of the conxpiracy.
     
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    Trump to sign order to keep families together.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    When and where did you hear this?

    He was losing that argument badly.
     
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    Are you familiar with latin machismo culture? It's a big deal for them and gets very twisted with low education rates and poverty. Causes lots of Male suicides, violent discrimination against gays as well as domestic abuse.
     
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    Turn on CNN.
     
  20. bodyman5000 and 1

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    To a certain extent. A bunch of guys I work with were at a party. One of them danced with a girl. Afterwards the others made fun of him for dancing with a transgender. He supposedly attacked the girl and the others had to keep him from killing her.
     

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