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  1. CupWizier

    CupWizier Well-Known Member

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    Generous dude? lol. The guy hired illegal immigrants, paid them way under the going rate while having them work 12 hour days 7 days a week with no overtime pay, provided no benefits as it was paid under the table , provided well below standard safety and even stiffed the workers on some wages. Yeah, the guy is nearly Santa Clause like with his generosity.
     
  2. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    So uh....Hillary was against gay marriage and illegal immigration until very recently.

    I especially like how Trump doing something wrong in the past is somehow a reason NOT to do something about a problem. Those illegal workers shouldn't have been here for him to have taken advantage of.

    Talk about having it both ways.
     
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    #whataboutism! First....I haven't read one post where folks are pro illegal immigration....Hillary either...pro amnesty for refugees is a different issue and putting small children into detention centers isn't acceptable either...Trump backed way off this the day after several states filed law suits against him.....fucker covered his ass like a scared rabbit....he lacks conviction ...nobody blames Trump for illegal immigration...they blame him for the handling of illegal immigration...more Hispanics left the country than entered since he's been president on their own...diplomacy from this guy is non existant unless you are N Korean or Russian dictators...trying to paint refugees as mob gangsters is shallow and self serving by Trump....he grew up in New York and has done business with mobsters all his career. New York has its fair share of gangsters...always has.
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    That's simplifying things just a bit, but whatever.
     
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    why not? I have a lot of friends and relatives in Taiwan and it's rare to meet a person there who wants to move here these days...judging a culture by it's expats is a mistake...meet the people who never leave their village or want to...my experience is Chinese people don't bother anybody here in the states...Chinese gangsters do, but they're not representative of Chinese people. new world dude....the Chinese would rather move somewhere else these days...my niece was going to stay with us and go to Oregon State....after Trump, she chose Australia instead for her education. More common than you think. Tourist dollars don't go very far here in the US compared to the options out there.
     
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    If any want to enter legally and follow the rules, thats good by me. You must ref this whole situation with rules and by the book.
     
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    White Russians taste pretty damn good! Add Coke and you have a Smith & Wesson!
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    Watch this...or don't.

     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    Whataboutism my ass. You fuckers are mad about Trump ripping off illegals in the 80's. The fucking 80s! And leading democrats from 5 or 10 years ago flipping for votes doesn't bother you a bit.

    Disgusting.

     
  10. CupWizier

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    You Trump apologists don't get it. It isn't about illegal imigration. It's about the inhumam treatment of the kids and being separated from their parents. Nobody is condoning illegal entry, but there is a process to follow.
     
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    I call shenanigans.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_city
    https://www.dailysignal.com/2015/10/20/sanctuary-cities-bill-blocked-in-senate/
    http://freebeacon.com/issues/maxine-waters-undocumented-immigrants-this-is-their-country/

    It's been discussed ad nauseum elsewhere, but since I think we all (except for Denny) agree that not everyone should be able to come here unfettered, that they all should follow the process, what do you do if you can't let them in, but they don't want to go back?

    Personally, I think it's fascinating that 23andMe is selling DNA kits to the government to "help them keep track of lost kids and their parents." This would be step one in hunting down human traffickers in ICE Director Brian's book.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    The first thing you do is fix the legal immigration system so that for those who want to enter the country to work, it's quicker, easier and cheaper to enter legally than illegally.

    That frees up resources for preventing any actual bad guys from entering.

    Maybe I'm missing the point, but how would DNA help identify human traffickers?

    barfo
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    If your child/sister/mother/etc was being trafficked, you could have a 23 and me sample taken of you, so they could have you on the books (maybe anonymously). And if they find a person who they suspect is being trafficked, they could test them to see if they fit any person who has a missing relative, etc?

    I'm guessing thats how it'd work.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    In theory, if the adults traveling with children are either parents or human traffickers, verifying whether those children are related to their accompanying adults could at least eliminate the legitimate parents from consideration as human traffickers.

    Of course, I'm sure there are more than just the two above-referenced possibilities, but I'm just speaking in the abstract here.
     
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    who still watches Hillary videos? I'll pass....you fail to differentiate between refugee amnesty and illegal immigration....until you figure that out...there's not much to talk about..policy is what it is...dealing with it in a way that doesn't humiliate innocent children is another..now they're walking it back since Trump needed to look better on this one....he's a poll hog
     
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    Is human trafficking of Mexican children really that big of a problem? Just seems really difficult and risky to try and cross the border with a bunch of kids who don't want to be with you. And for the people who want to buy or fuck a Mexican child, wouldn't it be easier to travel to Mexico to do the dirty than to bring them kids to your home? Seems like you would be setting yourself up for a lifetime of blackmail. If a person is unethical enough to smuggle children I'm pretty sure they're not going to think twice about blackmailing your perverted ass.

    I'm not saying that there is no child trafficking, just not sure if it is a giant problem like it's suddenly being portrayed as.

    And if we find children that are being trafficked for illegal reasons to the USA, aren't those the very people we should be giving amnesty to?
     
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    Cup, I don't condone caging kids at all. But out of fairness, the Extreme Lefty Obama also caged kids.
    This is one of the issues I have with politics today everyone blames everyone for doing the same damn thing.
    Im for managing things properly weather it be money, taxes, borders, etc.
    This country is heading for a civil war real soon if people don't humble themselves and be respectful of others opinions regardless of subject. That is a true American spirit when you can agree to disagree.
    Whats happening here now imo, is whats happened for centuries in other parts of the world where factions have been fighting and killing each other, over ideology.
    Im thinking the founders of this Great Nation would be very disappointed in whats going on now, regardless who's right, wrong or indifferent.

    It's a shame when my grandkids are told at the elementary school they must take sides.
    My wife is a retired elementary teacher of 40 years and she hasn't seen anything like this in schools.

    Hell, Im going for a boat ride!
     
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    How is that fair? I don't get the whole, if Obama did it then it's okay if Trump does it. If it's wrong, then it's wrong. Also in reading the few things that I have, the percentage of illegal kids "caged" by the Obama admin vs the Trump admin is very very different. "Fair" would be The Trump admin is caging kids at the same rate that the Obama admin did. But that still doesn't make it right.
     
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    Sly, I probably mis stated what I meant, I do that a lot these days.
    I agree its 100% wrong either way or from whoever.
     
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    Have fun on your boat ride. What kind of boat, where are you going?
     

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