Science Spiders Can Fly Hundreds of Miles Using Electricity

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    On October 31, 1832, a young naturalist named Charles Darwin walked onto the deck of the HMS Beagle and realized that the ship had been boarded by thousands of intruders. Tiny red spiders, each a millimeter wide, were everywhere. The ship was 60 miles offshore, so the creatures must have floated over from the Argentinian mainland. “All the ropes were coated and fringed with gossamer web,” Darwin wrote.

    Spiders have no wings, but they can take to the air nonetheless. They’ll climb to an exposed point, raise their abdomens to the sky, extrude strands of silk, and float away. This behavior is called ballooning. It might carry spiders away from predators and competitors, or toward new lands with abundant resources. But whatever the reason for it, it’s clearly an effective means of travel. Spiders have been found two-and-a-half miles up in the air, and 1,000 miles out to sea.

    It is commonly believed that ballooning works because the silk catches on the wind, dragging the spider with it. But that doesn’t entirely make sense, especially since spiders only balloon during light winds. Spiders don’t shoot silk from their abdomens, and it seems unlikely that such gentle breezes could be strong enough to yank the threads out—let alone to carry the largest species aloft, or to generate the high accelerations of arachnid takeoff. Darwin himself found the rapidity of the spiders’ flight to be “quite unaccountable” and its cause to be “inexplicable.”

    But Erica Morley and Daniel Robert have an explanation. The duo, who work at the University of Bristol, has shown that spiders can sense the Earth’s electric field, and use it to launch themselves into the air.

    Every day, around 40,000 thunderstorms crackle around the world, collectively turning Earth’s atmosphere into a giant electrical circuit. The upper reaches of the atmosphere have a positive charge, and the planet’s surface has a negative one. Even on sunny days with cloudless skies, the air carries a voltage of around 100 volts for every meter above the ground. In foggy or stormy conditions, that gradient might increase to tens of thousands of volts per meter.

    Ballooning spiders operate within this planetary electric field. When their silk leaves their bodies, it typically picks up a negative charge. This repels the similar negative charges on the surfaces on which the spiders sit, creating enough force to lift them into the air. And spiders can increase those forces by climbing onto twigs, leaves, or blades of grass. Plants, being earthed, have the same negative charge as the ground that they grow upon, but they protrude into the positively charged air. This creates substantial electric fields between the air around them and the tips of their leaves and branches—and the spiders ballooning from those tips.

    This idea—flight by electrostatic repulsion—was first proposed in the early 1800s, around the time of Darwin’s voyage. Peter Gorham, a physicist, resurrected the idea in 2013, and showed that it was mathematically plausible. And now, Morley and Robert have tested it with actual spiders.

    First, they showed that spiders can detect electric fields. They put the arachnids on vertical strips of cardboard in the center of a plastic box, and then generated electric fields between the floor and ceiling of similar strengths to what the spiders would experience outdoors. These fields ruffled tiny sensory hairs on the spiders’ feet, known as trichobothria. “It’s like when you rub a balloon and hold it up to your hairs,” Morley says.

    In response, the spiders performed a set of movements called tiptoeing—they stood on the ends of their legs and stuck their abdomens in the air. “That behavior is only ever seen before ballooning,” says Morley. Many of the spiders actually managed to take off, despite being in closed boxes with no airflow within them. And when Morley turned off the electric fields inside the boxes, the ballooning spiders dropped.

    It’s especially important, says Angela Chuang, from the University of Tennessee, to know that spiders can physically detect electrostatic changes in their surroundings. “[That’s] the foundation for lots of interesting research questions,” she says. “How do various electric-field strengths affect the physics of takeoff, flight, and landing? Do spiders use information on atmospheric conditions to make decisions about when to break down their webs, or create new ones?”

    Moonsung Cho from the Technical University of Berlin recently showed that spiders prepare for flight by raising their front legs into the wind, presumably to test how strong it is.

    Still, Morley and Robert’s study shows that electrostatic forces are, on their own, enough to propel spiders into the air. “This is really top-notch science,” says Gorham. “As a physicist, it seemed very clear to me that electric fields played a central role, but I could only speculate on how the biology might support this. Morley and Robert have taken this to a level of certainty that far exceeds any expectations I had.”

    “I think Charles Darwin would be as thrilled to read it as I was,” he adds.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/07/the-electric-flight-of-spiders/564437/
     
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    Well that's scary AF
     
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    Well if people would clean the drones before sending them out...there'd be less spider baggage!
     
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    I saw David Bowie during the Glass Spider tour. Performed in Civic Stadium/Providence Park.

     
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    Good catch...never got the chance to see him...almost got tickets to the Hunky Dory tour back in the day but work got in the way
     
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    Guessing using a taser on a spider will not work.
     
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    Oh come on, you came up with this while on an acid high.
     
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    That's what an AR-15 is for.

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    I always thought spiders were the extraterrestrial life forms we're looking for but they've just been here all along
     
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    Funny you should mention this. You can call BS on what I will post next. I'm not sure I believe what I am going to post. But it was told to me by someone I consider knowledgeable about guns.

    He claimed you could not kill a spider with a rifle, or even a shotgun, if the spider was in its web. He claimed the spiders are so light weight, that the air pressure in front of a round will push the spider out of the way.

    I have never tested this theory, because I hate to waste ammo. Plus I only shoot what I plan to eat.

    But this theory does tie in somewhat with the info in the OP report. If spiders were heavier, the electric field, or whatever, would not work to let them travel such long distances in the air.
     
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    Police: Pair high on bath salts fired gun at fireflies, mistaking them for alien lasers

    https://www.wboy.com/news/police-pa...es-mistaking-them-for-alien-lasers/1284881186
     
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    I've been told that spiders are delicious. South American Indians eat them on a regular basis.

    However, give me a shotgun and a spider in it's web and I will blow it into so many little pieces that you'll never find them.

    Edit: Yes, I call bullshit.
     
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    The Hunter spiders in Taiwan are huge hairy wall decorations...some bigger than your hands with your fingers splayed...I'd bet you could shoot one easily ...be like shooting a bat
     
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    We killed one in Vietnam in our shower that was a monster. Green and yellow and almost half a foot long. Some guy smashed it on the wall with his thongs, aka flip flops.

    All spiders are poisonous.
     
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    Man a Spider's silk is conductive of electricity. The possibilities of what they could do are many. I bet they haven't figured it all out yet.
     
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    Adding weight increases the flying force? Something's fishy here.

    Denny would accuse the scientists of faking it, for profit.
     
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    It's not saying that the spiders fly with the leaves and twigs. It's saying the electric field is greater on the leaves and twigs. It's a better launching pad.

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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    big assed spider.jpg
     

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