You may be right but I thought the Bundy standoff in Nevada was the one primarily about grazing rights. I was watching an interview with the Malheur protesters and they were claiming the federal government was trying to force them (Hammonds and other neighboring ranchers) to sell their land to either start or expand the refuge. That and the details about the arson charges being hyped up to basically bully them into complying. The government does this (land acquisition) all the time so it's not hard for me to believe.
Oh please. The Hammonds land wasn't being taken. They were told they couldn't graze their cattle anymore in the wildlife refuge, which is federal land. In response to that, the Hammonds destroyed fences that the feds put up to keep the Hammond's cattle out, and threatened federal employees repeatedly. They set fires multiple times, after being warned not to, including in ways that threatened the lives of firefighters. They were and presumably still are criminals and assholes. barfo
Suppose a mass murderer is released from jail by mistake. Should he, having been given his freedom, remain free? barfo
Mistake? Judge gives him a sentence of 20 years when he should get life? That's what I'm talking about. Don't like what the judge gives for sentences, vote him out or disbar him if he breaks the rules.
Yes, mistake. Jailer lets a guy out of jail when he shouldn't be let out, that's a mistake. Judge fails to follow mandatory sentencing guidelines, that's a mistake. Now, either one could instead be an intentional middle-finger to the system, of course. If it's a mistake, you correct the mistake and perhaps, depending on the facts, discipline the mistake-maker. If it's intentional, you correct the mistake and perhaps fire the mistake-maker. barfo
Murderers walk for technicalities all the time. I think a one year sentence that should have been five is best left alone.
I do see your point. If the cops or prosecutors screw up and that causes a murderer's case to be thrown out, or for him to be found not guilty, that's probably worse than a judge screwing up a sentence. But, the cop/prosecutor problem is (usually) not reversible. The judge's decision is reversible. barfo
Then what is the whole story? The Hammonds set their own ranch on fire to make it so disgusting that the guberment would no longer want it?
And Kate Brown went up there, she said, "Shrink, I want to kill. I mean, I wanna, I Wanna kill. Kill. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and Guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean kill, Kill, KILL, KILL." And she started jumpin up and down yelling, "KILL, KILL," and he started jumpin up and down with her and they was both jumping up and down Yelling, "KILL, KILL." Yep, Maris, your story checks out. barfo
They pled guilty to it. A family member testified to it. And they just accepted a pardon for it which is also an admission of guilt.
