Pat Connaughton

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  1. Scalma

    Scalma Well-Known Member

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    This dude, that seemingly nobody in the league wants, averaged almost 20 minutes a night, never got benched (mainly because we had no one else) and had numerous knights on this board. But yeah Neil is doing a bang up job, definitely keep defending him.
     
  2. Scalma

    Scalma Well-Known Member

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    Says a lot about the coaching that so many seem to think is the problem. Terry has this team overachieving (relative to their talent) every season. Imagine if the GM actually helped him out.
     
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    If that happened we might win a few games in the postseason. But Neil is happy just to get in like a mid major to the tourney.
     
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  4. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Who's defending Neil? He let Connaughton walk. Isn't that what you wanted?

    BNM
     
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    e_blazer Rip City Fan

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    No, no. You have to get something for every player who leaves the Blazers' roster. You know, because there are 125 roster spots to fill.

     
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    No. I wanted him to upgrade the bench last offseason. Instead he handed Connaughton a rotation spot.
     
  7. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    I want that every off season. When was the last time we had an average bench? A great bench? 2008-09?

    BNM
     
  8. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Notwithstanding the loss of Ed Davis, I feel like the Blazers did upgrade their bench, overall. Only time will tell.

    :cheers:
     
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    Feel like Portland believes Collins is going to be the replacement for those minutes.
    Feel like Portland believes it will be addition by subtraction.
    We'll see.
     
  10. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    We definitely added shooting/scoring. I was very impressed with the poise and confidence of both rookies during the summer league. Based on experience and size, I was hopeful Trent Jr. could crack the rotation by season's end. I still think he's the more physically mature of the two, but Simons is much closer than I thought he'd be. The kid can play.

    BNM
     
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    tlongII Legendary Poster

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    Collins can rebound and play defense. I don't know if he can stay out of foul trouble though.
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    And to be clear, I think some of that improvement should come from natural improvement of some of the players on the team, in addition to some of the new players.

    Also, when you lose a player like Ed, or any player, you don't lose 100% of what the lost player gave you. You lose the difference between what that player would have given you, and what his replacements end up giving you. If the remaining front court players improve over last season, the net loss might be minimal, or a wash, or ideally, a "negative loss" (IOW an improvement). Overall.

    So again, at this moment I expect next season's bench to be better, overall, than last season's bench.

    But then again, I've been known to be a glass half full (of it) kind of guy.

    :cheers:
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Yes, yes, and no he can't ;)

    :cheers:
     
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    Actually the team will need to sign at least one more player. I would not mind seeing Pat play here next year.
     
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    What do you mean? Roster is full.
     
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    KJ, who do you keep forgetting? I've seen you post several times referencing the roster isn't full but we have 15 guys with guaranteed contracts.
     
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    I have no desire to see Pat play here next year. He is a known quantity but with limited upside. I'd much rather give that time to one of our rookies or new signee's so that we can see if we have sometime better. Keeping a marginal talent player rather than exploring seems like a guaranteed path to continued mediocrity. We sign and draft new people in the hopes that they will provide a higher level of play, either short or long-term.

    Pat was a great guy and I was glad to see him have some success but keeping him around would do nothing to improve the Blazers. Those at the end of the bench are those who are most replaceable and most likely to be improved by bringing in a semi-unknown quantity.

    Gramps...
     
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    No you have not seen me post this several times because i haven't posted several times all summer other than some goofy crap and the Addidas store. I'm so far out of the loop i missed that they picked up Nic and Wade. Then after reading your response i actually looked and figured out they now have Layman as guaranteed after June 30th and it looks like Swanigan is guaranteed until the team option kicks in next year. Way too late in my book. Sorry i will do better next time. Then there is the fact that after posting this i realized this thread was from last summer. Still my opinion stands. Pat would have been more valuable than a couple of the players they have on this roster.

    This pretty much falls under the title. KJ didn't know what the fuck he was posting and looks stupid right about now.
     
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    Thing is he isn't end of the bench. So there is that.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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